Google Is Offering Serious Cash to Lure iPhone Users to the Pixel 8 (www.howtogeek.com)
from kirk781@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2023 14:55
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eruchitanda@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2023 15:27 next collapse

That title is *very* misleading.

Aatube@kbin.social on 20 Oct 2023 20:23 collapse

Jesus, when did HTG rebrand? When did they start clickbaiting? In my mind they were always that helpful tech tutorial website

Bye@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2023 15:31 next collapse

They will have to offer iMessage compatibility to get me to switch back to android. I only have an iPhone because almost everyone in my life uses iMessage.

Maltese_Liquor@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2023 15:38 next collapse

Google has no ability to offer iMessage compatibility as it’s locked down by Apple. Allegedly Apple devs had a version of iMessage ready to launch on Android and the Apple execs decided to kill it because they felt that keeping iMessage exclusive to Apple would keep users locked in, which clearly they were right about. I’m not interested in a discussion over which phone is better than the other but I don’t care for the false narrative that Google is the one keeping iMessage off of Android.

Bye@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2023 17:21 collapse

I wasn’t implying google is keeping it off of android. Everyone knows apple gate keeps it to keep people on iPhone.

I’m just saying that without it, I can’t go back to android.

Maltese_Liquor@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2023 18:04 collapse

Fair enough. Maybe one day these companies will stop being total dicks about tying basic functionality to proprietary apps and OSs and we can all finally just choose the stuff we want to choose. Will probably never happen but I can dream.

Bye@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2023 18:09 collapse

Yeah really. Or someone will create an abstraction layer above WhatsApp/signal/iMessage/etc so I don’t have to use multiple programs to talk with my friends.

Aatube@kbin.social on 20 Oct 2023 20:20 collapse

Can someone here update us on the status of that EU gatekeeping law in regards to iMessage?

bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de on 23 Oct 2023 15:31 collapse

Last I heard it’s pretty close to being passed.

Aatube@kbin.social on 23 Oct 2023 16:48 collapse

I was more asking about the effect.

bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 20 Oct 2023 15:41 next collapse

Unfortunately it’s not up to Google to get Apple to open their walled garden. Regulation is what is needed here. The EU’s DMA rightfully considers Google a gatekeeper in the Ads, Search, and Browser business. It’s a joke they’re still considering if Apple is a gatekeeper with regard to iMessage for messaging.

Apple has removed your ability to choose for yourself what to buy because of their strong grip with iMessage.

vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 20 Oct 2023 15:52 next collapse

Apple has removed your ability to choose for yourself what to buy because of their strong grip with iMessage.

Over here everyone uses WhatsApp. Don’t expect the EU to solve this particular problem for you.

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 20 Oct 2023 18:04 next collapse

You spelled Telegram* wrong… 😢

vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 20 Oct 2023 19:03 collapse

There are some regional differences. But iMessage is definitely not a monopoly anywhere.

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Oct 2023 05:52 next collapse

Oh. It very much is in the US for the school aged crowd. Which means in the US there’s currently about 85% of all kids growing up and becoming adults who are used to using an iPhone.

stopthatgirl7@kbin.social on 21 Oct 2023 06:58 collapse

Yup, where I live, everyone uses Line. The only time I ever use iMessage is to talk with my brother back in the US. iMessage gets ignored because it’s full of spam for me.

maggio@discuss.tchncs.de on 20 Oct 2023 20:23 next collapse

Germany? Ideleted it today

bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de on 23 Oct 2023 15:29 collapse

It’s already in the works. All big messenger services will have to allow federation. So that you may use whatever messenger you please. This should break up the iMessage and the WhatsApp lock-in.

Bye@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2023 17:20 collapse

Yes I am aware that it’s not possible for google to implement it, without some kind of lawsuit. Which they should do.

I’m just saying that without it, I really can’t go back to android.

southsamurai@sh.itjust.works on 20 Oct 2023 19:55 collapse

Well, yeah, you can. You just don’t want to

FoundTheVegan@kbin.social on 20 Oct 2023 18:20 collapse

Apple is the problem and they are intentionally blocking this compatibility to keep you in their walled garden ecosystem.

One of many great reasons I avoid the company, I'm no fan of Google but I'm even less enthusiastic about being manipulatied by unnecessary restrictions.

kirk781@lemm.ee on 21 Oct 2023 12:46 collapse

Some months ago, in email transcripts between Apple employees from years ago, they were discussing about the possibility of bringing iMessage to Android but ultimately decided against it because it was the product that kept users locked in to their iPhones. It isn’t a technological problem to bring iMessage but a corporation-al one.

Aatube@kbin.social on 20 Oct 2023 20:22 collapse

TL;DR: Trade-in. Trade in value is $550 for the iPhone 14, for comparison $325 for the Pixel 7.