China hacked Verizon, AT&T and Lumen using the FBI’s backdoor (pluralistic.net)
from db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 13:01
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chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 13:15 next collapse

Wow. It’s almost like we’ve been warning for years that putting backdoors into software, systems, and encryption would allow nefarious parties to exploit them.

gaiussabinus@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 13:21 next collapse

Think about the children <clutches pearls>. It will make it easier for police to access instead of <checks notes> doing actual police work and getting a warrant.

anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Oct 2024 13:29 next collapse

Well yeah but then they’d have to expand the hiring pool beyond the dumbest jock you knew in high school and those people tend to balk at doing fascism so…

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 07 Oct 2024 13:37 collapse

Hey, be fair! They also hire the three bullies who hung out by the bleachers smoking cigarettes.

[deleted] on 07 Oct 2024 13:37 next collapse

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Lennny@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 16:43 next collapse

Sorry, I only think of children during school shootings, it’s easier that way.

desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Oct 2024 03:12 collapse

you don’t want police to think about children, or atleast I don’t.

BMTea@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 13:40 collapse

The FBI is the nefarious party lol

DogWater@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 19:36 collapse

Waco intensifies

Amius@pawb.social on 07 Oct 2024 13:15 next collapse

I remember them trying to get Apple to put in a back door as well

horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 13:50 next collapse

Only Apple can use that data for profit! Now the Alphabet agencies just buy that data from brokers… I just realized how funny the parent company to Google name change is.

the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works on 07 Oct 2024 17:09 next collapse

Dang, you’re right! It’s like noticing the arrow in fedex

[deleted] on 07 Oct 2024 19:57 collapse

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KonalaKoala@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 20:08 collapse

At least they were not talking about Lemmy, Mastodon, etc. like someone is trying to screw up the Fediverse.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 07 Oct 2024 16:06 collapse

That was a psyop my man

Got normies super comfortable ;)

NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 13:38 next collapse

Omg the back doors work for anyone who can gain access to them??? Shocked-pikachu.jpg

Korkki@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 13:51 next collapse

nice, that’ll tech them.

Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works on 07 Oct 2024 14:04 next collapse

This article is getting saved, for the next time some idiot proposes ‘lawful backdoors’, which will inevitably happen.

Bytemeister@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 14:42 next collapse

Nervously glances at TPM and TSA approved locks.

Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 07 Oct 2024 15:37 collapse

I still love the fact that those TSA keys are all available online as 3D files and likely as metal as well

henfredemars@infosec.pub on 07 Oct 2024 16:04 next collapse

I know for a fact you can get a metal set for a few dollars plus shipping.

NaibofTabr@infosec.pub on 07 Oct 2024 16:07 next collapse
anzo@programming.dev on 08 Oct 2024 00:22 next collapse

Those locks are kinda optional. And luggage is way less important than all of one’s communication ; imho.

Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Oct 2024 01:22 next collapse

Oh absolutely, but it does do something that I’m not sure people realize: it normalizes the idea of a government agent holding the keys to all of your stuff.

Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2024 08:08 collapse

The bad part is when people take a luggage lock and use it for their Gym locker, or the locker at the pool. Somewhere that really REALLY shouldn’t be using a weak lock with a readily available master key.

Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2024 08:07 collapse

I just went and looked, set of multiple TSA master keys for sale online, numbered with which ones they are the master keys for.

[deleted] on 07 Oct 2024 17:12 collapse

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Th4tGuyII@fedia.io on 07 Oct 2024 14:09 next collapse

What?? But the FBI called dibs on that backdoor! /s

It's almost like putting backdoors into software as a whole is a bad idea cause anyone who knows of it can use it, not just "tHe GoOd GuYs"

sukhmel@programming.dev on 08 Oct 2024 08:23 collapse

cause anyone who knows of it can use it

…and the ones who don’t know of it will one day become the ones who know

aluminium@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 2024 14:32 next collapse

Can’t buy Huawei Networking gear, if we get hacked it has the be through our own backdoor.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Oct 2024 15:38 next collapse

China USA hacked Verizon, AT&T and Lumen then left the door open for anybody else

almost1337@lemm.ee on 07 Oct 2024 15:46 next collapse

If the door exists, then it can be opened

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 07 Oct 2024 16:06 next collapse

US did not need to hack, they just said they need the key... How did china get these keys?

Are our glowies selling state secrets now?

chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Oct 2024 02:01 collapse

Oh hey, I found a random 8 year old video.

Random…

youtu.be/VPBH1eW28mo

uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 07 Oct 2024 20:43 collapse

And this is why the NSA is supposed to close exploits rather than harvest them for surveillance.

This is why surveillance backdoors are always bad, and you can’t math around that.

rottingleaf@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2024 08:33 collapse

Can’t weasel around math you mean? They don’t think they can, it’s collateral damage.

LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org on 07 Oct 2024 16:44 collapse

Article author struggles with clean links

wsj.com/…/u-s-wiretap-systems-targeted-in-china-l… btw

The pioneers of this dirty business were overwhelmingly founded by ex-Israeli signals intelligence personnel,

That’s interesting. Must be a coincidence.

and related Clinton-era initiatives, like the failed Clipper Chip program, which would have put a spy chip in every computer, and, eventually, every phone and gadget:

“Don’t worry, guys we tried to backdoor all devices but failed, see?”

Meanwhile, Intel ME, AMD “Secure Processor”, and ARM “TrustZone”:

<img alt="" src="https://links.hackliberty.org/pictrs/image/d3953fd6-186b-4854-9456-fa2bb4684556.jpeg">

dan@upvote.au on 07 Oct 2024 19:49 next collapse

That link is a 404 for me.

Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee on 07 Oct 2024 20:12 next collapse

Dawg

Edit: y’all no fun

betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Oct 2024 03:27 collapse

Same. The OP article is interesting, but was hoping for more than a few wiki links of past instances. Is there more verifiable evidence for this instance? Don’t doubt the claim, just curious.

Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2024 08:04 next collapse

I think you should watch this Great Video by CCC,de on Intel ME it has some great facts and information on the deal with IntelME without all the fearmongering and conspiracy theories other videos and blogs usually pump out.

sukhmel@programming.dev on 08 Oct 2024 08:55 next collapse
rottingleaf@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2024 10:01 collapse

That’s interesting. Must be a coincidence.

Kinda coincides in time with Israel becoming less of a normal West-aligned state and more of a spoiled child whom everyone pats, not very well-behaving at that.

Though TBH this was the case under Reagan too. It’s just that there’s difference between support for Israel and Israel’s penetration back.