NASA-inspired airless bicycle tires are now available for purchase (newatlas.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2023 16:00
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NASA-inspired airless bicycle tires are now available for purchase::undefined

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atx_aquarian@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2023 16:16 next collapse

Wow, I saw this tech on Veritasium’s channel and wondered how long it might be before we might see it. And here it is. Just like that, a future where bike tires never go completely flat may almost be here.

smort@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2023 16:37 collapse

I’m hoping they actually make it to production and they’re a fantastic replacement to pneumatic tires.

BUT, it’s a Kickstarter, with estimated delivery almost a year from now. I’m withholding my excitement until they’re actually in use by regular people in the real world

Swim@lemmy.ca on 15 Sep 2023 16:51 next collapse

ya, im done throwing my money away on kickstarters

silent_clash@lemmygrad.ml on 16 Sep 2023 05:54 collapse

Cycling kickstarters have an awful track record. Make sure it’s make by an actual cycling company and even then it’s better to do a late pledge after some fulfillment and reviews.

psud@aussie.zone on 16 Sep 2023 08:29 next collapse

It also looks like a Kickstarter where one is paying well above the future price to get to be one of the first

I don’t think I want to be an early adopter here. I know how my current tyres handle a fast corner, I would like to see theses on bikes ridden fast before considering them.

June@lemm.ee on 16 Sep 2023 16:01 collapse

Yea I really think that an established brand would pick this up if it were really viable. They have the r&d capacity to make this work where I’m not convinced a startup does.

WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2023 16:52 next collapse

I guess it would be cool if these worked. There are already similar products in the market and they suffer from being difficult to install, deadening and heavy.

dublet@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2023 19:22 collapse

My biggest worry on this would be where you’d get them re-threaded.

psud@aussie.zone on 15 Sep 2023 20:10 collapse

You’d have to buy them from the manufacturer. Probably have to subscribe.

queermunist@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 2023 16:55 next collapse

Neat.

How heavy are they?

porkchop@lemm.ee on 15 Sep 2023 16:58 collapse

It’s in the article. 450g

queermunist@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 2023 17:20 next collapse

… I somehow glossed over that lol

Not bad!

Chreutz@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2023 17:39 collapse

Yeah, for 700x35c. That’s not bad at all

Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 2023 16:58 next collapse

I had airless tires on my BMX bike in the 80’s. Not so cool now, are you NASA?

_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 2023 18:28 next collapse

Nah, they’re still pretty cool: NASA invented this tech in the 60s.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2023 23:45 next collapse

The tires on my bike right now are airless.

NewNewAccount@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 2023 04:17 collapse

Because they’re flat?

sverit@feddit.de on 16 Sep 2023 13:28 collapse

Wooden wheels were airless before it was cool!

darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 2023 17:13 collapse

And sustainable

Johandea@feddit.nu on 15 Sep 2023 17:38 next collapse

Do they come in a studded version? A necessity during the winter months

_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 2023 18:30 collapse

Doesn’t look like they do yet, but if these are successful they probably eventually will.

GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Sep 2023 17:42 next collapse

Misleading title. They’re not “available for purchase”. There’s a kickstarter.

gencha@lemm.ee on 15 Sep 2023 20:07 collapse

And the link is kickstarter.com/…/space-age-bicycle-wheels-using-… Might as well skip the noise

_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 2023 18:26 next collapse

I always thought this tech was cool, and this implementation seems promising, but I’ll definitely be taking a wait and see approach.

21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com on 15 Sep 2023 18:28 next collapse

Well for that price they can go fuck themselves and also isn’t that the same metal as high end vape coils?

CmdrShepard@lemmy.one on 16 Sep 2023 02:26 next collapse

I think you’re thinking of Nichrome.

JoBo@feddit.uk on 16 Sep 2023 11:35 collapse

You’re probably thinking of Nichrome, which has been the bog standard for vape coils since forever. It’s the same metal as used in most toasters, used because its resistance doesn’t change with temperature. The ‘high end’ version is Kanthal, which is even more stable at high temperatures (and it tastes better). They’re used because most heating applications need a consistent power delivery based on a constant voltage input, which you don’t get if the resistance changes as it heats up (power = volts-squared/resistance).

But then, for vaping, temperature control (TC) came along. This prevents burnt hits, and can help get the best flavour out of e-juice because some flavours are temperature-sensitive. TC relies on using a metal which does change resistance with temperature, because this is what allows the technology to measure the temperature of the wire. For safety, resistance needs to rise (not fall) as it gets hotter. Early TC used nickel, whose resistance increases a lot with temperature, but the tech is now good enough to work with stainless steels, whose resistance changes so little that it can be used in both watts mode and TC mode.

This has been your enitrely irrelevant interlude. Back to bike tyres.

[deleted] on 16 Sep 2023 12:59 collapse

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colourlesspony@pawb.social on 16 Sep 2023 00:01 next collapse

Those look really cool! I wonder what the installation process is like. I installed tannus solid tires on my commuter bike and I like them but they where a nightmare to install. My arm and shoulder where sore for like a week after I put them on because of how much pressure and finesse it took to get the 200 or so plastic pins to pop into the rim. At least I’m confident they will never come off on there own.

waterbogan@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 2023 00:43 next collapse

Interesting tech but there are already decent available solutions such as the Schwalbe Marathon Plus and similar that are effectively glassproof, I have these on my bike and they work really well, one is over 15 years old now

Winter8593@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 2023 08:48 next collapse

glassproof

No, I like glass in my tires, thank you very much

waterbogan@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 02:37 collapse

You should ride around the city centre here, you will have so much glass in your tires in no time flat, you’ll love it!

number6@feddit.nl on 16 Sep 2023 19:40 collapse

How are they for coming off ? The various reinforced tires I’ve tried (randoneur, gator, 25mm) are really hard to put back on. Like you peel the skin off your hands trying. I’ve notice that most tires, even cheaper ones, don’t give you trouble for the first 500 miles. So have gone back to a medium grade tire that doesn’t require special tools to replace.

waterbogan@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 02:34 collapse

I dont know, I have never had to replace one, so never had to take one off. The one time I ever had one fail was when I hit a piece of timber with multiple nails in it, and I got my local bike shop to swap it. Tyre was already over ten years old at that point, and given I ride somewhere between 200 and 600kms a month probably had well over 10,000 kms on it

[deleted] on 16 Sep 2023 08:56 next collapse

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orrk@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 2023 13:11 next collapse

there are people with €1500+ city bikes out there

[deleted] on 16 Sep 2023 18:44 next collapse

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orrk@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 09:36 collapse

plenty of ways not to have your bike stolen, and it’s not like these have gold-plated frames, the stuff that makes them expensive is the insides

Nath@aussie.zone on 16 Sep 2023 19:58 collapse

We’re not putting 500g tyres on our bikes, though.

Mr_Blott@feddit.uk on 16 Sep 2023 18:57 next collapse

If you research it, the general consensus is that they’ll be good for rental bikes and that’s it

havokdj@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 2023 20:01 collapse

I’d dig them for BMX freestyle but that is about it

June@lemm.ee on 16 Sep 2023 16:00 next collapse

Any notion on weight limits? Didn’t see it in my skin of the article or the kickstarter.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 2023 16:44 next collapse

No they’re not

This is Kickstarter scam #3752726, don’t waste your money

daniskarma@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 2023 18:56 collapse

Airless tires exist since forereve though.