I would say electronics would prevent spinning wheels.
But yes, to start drifting, you yank the handbrake (for a short time) to get the car in position, then push on the gas pedal just right, to keep that angle throughout the turn.
jordanlund@lemmy.world
on 18 Apr 01:23
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Should be super easy to prove too… Take an assortment of Teslas to a 1 mile stretch of road, drive it up and down 20 times, measure the mileage before and after.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Apr 03:06
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Unless it’s random and only adds on for say a long trip where you may not notice a mile here or there.
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Apr 03:12
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I think they were saying the car software wouldn’t add artificial distances to short trips, where it’s more obvious. Not that the real world measurement is difficult or anything like that.
They are the most data harvested car by far. Knowing these criminals they likely run statistical models trained on all prior Teslas, approaching it like an actuary/data scientist.
The overcounting may only be performed on Individual units that display certain patterns which indicate premature failure. Maybe it only occurs based on the profitability vs likelihood of warranty claim for that individual unit, mitigating losses for manufacturing defaults (or cost cutting by a narcissistic megalomaniac).
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 18 Apr 07:55
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Yeah, I don’t understand why this guy is basing this on some monthly counts. Start google maps, see how long the route is, see what odometer is showing, check it again after arriving at the destination.
Easier: put it on a test bench, let it run (spin wheels on rolls, car stays in place) and see what the odometer says.
goldemboy@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Apr 06:40
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Nah, way too easy! Like the VW scandals 10ish years ago, cars that can sense when they are being tested will likely deliver expected results… Test them on the bench anyway and then compare that with real world testing results.
toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world
on 18 Apr 03:12
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i picture the iconic flame tire trails, but at the last second they swerve into the oncoming lane
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Apr 03:34
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Even when back to the future enters public domain, if someone ever makes a version with the cybertruck, I’m going to be pissed at you first. The only exception is if the cybertruck can’t make it to 88mph and breaks down and the Libyans kill Marty so we don’t have to suffer any longer.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Apr 06:59
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Honestly that just sounds like a college humor skit.
That horror scenario has been floating around since the announcement of the murderous tin can. And let me just tell you despite everything I am glad there hasn‘t been a serious attempt at remaking this classic in this timeline thus far.
Elmo is a scammer, he has been for at least a decade. Most of the words coming out of his mouth are lies, nothing not this is new or news
toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 04:34
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the thing about some people is that once you figure out what “their” truth is, you realize why they say they “can’t lie” and it doesn’t make sense. i’m not saying i’ve got HIS number yet, but i’m sure it’s pretty easy to anyone with physical access to him. just like a pc.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
on 18 Apr 02:28
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Tesla is a shitty company, and everyone who works there is shitty. Same for SpaceX. They don’t have any excuses left.
Anyone who buys a Tesla from this point forward is also shitty.
The most likely explanation here is someone recorded the wrong odometer reading.
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Apr 08:44
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I’d be willing to bet Tesla odos go off GPS readings instead of any sort of physical sensor or mechanism. All kinds of opportunity to screw the reading up that way, intentionally or otherwise.
kameecoding@lemmy.world
on 18 Apr 09:26
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That can’t be legal, there is surely a requirement for having odometers that are hard to manipulate to avoid fraud
He’s literally that guy. You know the kid that has to find any irritating angle to just abuse the system?
Everyone who cleans up their desk gets a cookie and this kid is trading other kids half his cookie to clean their desk so he gets 20 cookies and gives 10 back kinda dude. And then argues with the teacher she said “desk” not their own desk.
The only way to deal with people like that is to give them a pink belly and send them home crying.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Apr 17:32
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they’re just making up time since teslas usually explode well before they could get old enough to reach high mileage.
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Are the drivers Tokyo drifters? Cause that could explain it
Not an enthusiast or an export but I have played a lot of Mario Kart.
Doesn’t drifting lower the odometer compared to distance since you have to cover distance while your wheels stopped turning?
I would think drifting runs the odometer higher because your wheels are spinning like in a burnout while moving a comparatively short distance.
I think you’re both right for different part of the drifts, but IANAD
As a person that plays Mario Kart, makes sense to me.
I trust your info based solely on your user name.
I would say electronics would prevent spinning wheels.
But yes, to start drifting, you yank the handbrake (for a short time) to get the car in position, then push on the gas pedal just right, to keep that angle throughout the turn.
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Should be super easy to prove too… Take an assortment of Teslas to a 1 mile stretch of road, drive it up and down 20 times, measure the mileage before and after.
Unless it’s random and only adds on for say a long trip where you may not notice a mile here or there.
That’s when I’m most likely to notice.
You may not notice, but there are devices that can measure the distance that a car travels, even for a long distance, and with a super high precision.
Car manufacturers have such devices. I have seen a few.
I think they were saying the car software wouldn’t add artificial distances to short trips, where it’s more obvious. Not that the real world measurement is difficult or anything like that.
It might only overcount from 40k to 50k, that hump to get the warranty over. Then undercount to get back on track.
They are the most data harvested car by far. Knowing these criminals they likely run statistical models trained on all prior Teslas, approaching it like an actuary/data scientist.
The overcounting may only be performed on Individual units that display certain patterns which indicate premature failure. Maybe it only occurs based on the profitability vs likelihood of warranty claim for that individual unit, mitigating losses for manufacturing defaults (or cost cutting by a narcissistic megalomaniac).
Yeah, I don’t understand why this guy is basing this on some monthly counts. Start google maps, see how long the route is, see what odometer is showing, check it again after arriving at the destination.
Easier: put it on a test bench, let it run (spin wheels on rolls, car stays in place) and see what the odometer says.
Nah, way too easy! Like the VW scandals 10ish years ago, cars that can sense when they are being tested will likely deliver expected results… Test them on the bench anyway and then compare that with real world testing results.
Everything’s computer
i feel like saying “mark my words”, but i think tesla would probably end up on the top of the list of “most scammy products, given it’s price”.
He passed DeLorean quicker than John could look up from his line.
you made me picture a Back to the Future remake with a Tesla Truck as the time machine…
No and fuck you for saying it.
true horror is knowing you still have to upvote it
I’ll one up them, make it one of those shitty NFT monkey cartoons
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i picture the iconic flame tire trails, but at the last second they swerve into the oncoming lane
Even when back to the future enters public domain, if someone ever makes a version with the cybertruck, I’m going to be pissed at you first. The only exception is if the cybertruck can’t make it to 88mph and breaks down and the Libyans kill Marty so we don’t have to suffer any longer.
Honestly that just sounds like a college humor skit.
Marty: “Are you telling me you built a time machine… Out of a Cybertruck??”
Doc Brown: “The way I see it, if you’re gonna build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some style?”
Marty: “So you picked a Cybertruck??? What the fuck doc, it’s hideous. This is heavy, doc”
The truck shorts out in the rain and catches fire instead of leaving the flaming tracks
That horror scenario has been floating around since the announcement of the murderous tin can. And let me just tell you despite everything I am glad there hasn‘t been a serious attempt at remaking this classic in this timeline thus far.
Elmo is a scammer, he has been for at least a decade. Most of the words coming out of his mouth are lies, nothing not this is new or news
the thing about some people is that once you figure out what “their” truth is, you realize why they say they “can’t lie” and it doesn’t make sense. i’m not saying i’ve got HIS number yet, but i’m sure it’s pretty easy to anyone with physical access to him. just like a pc.
Tesla is a shitty company, and everyone who works there is shitty. Same for SpaceX. They don’t have any excuses left.
Anyone who buys a Tesla from this point forward is also shitty.
Maybe because it’s run by the shittiest man on the planet.
With Google maps on many phones you should be able to get a good idea if this true or not.
Not necessarily
The most likely explanation here is someone recorded the wrong odometer reading.
I’d be willing to bet Tesla odos go off GPS readings instead of any sort of physical sensor or mechanism. All kinds of opportunity to screw the reading up that way, intentionally or otherwise.
That can’t be legal, there is surely a requirement for having odometers that are hard to manipulate to avoid fraud
I hope so, but if their intent is to commit fraud what is and isn’t legal might not prevent them from ending up with manipulated results
Laws? For corporations?
I wonder if EU has some specifications regarding odometers.
It can’t believe we don’t have a standard on how that it needs to work.
The only way elon has to respond to ANY problem… Is to cheat
He’s literally that guy. You know the kid that has to find any irritating angle to just abuse the system?
Everyone who cleans up their desk gets a cookie and this kid is trading other kids half his cookie to clean their desk so he gets 20 cookies and gives 10 back kinda dude. And then argues with the teacher she said “desk” not their own desk.
The only way to deal with people like that is to give them a pink belly and send them home crying.
they’re just making up time since teslas usually explode well before they could get old enough to reach high mileage.
Musk is a shit, but lying doesn’t help