Slowly working towards a viable OpenStreetMap in my area. If you want to help, you can make a free account and begin editing: www.openstreetmap.org/user/new
You can also contribute on mobile by using Street Complete or any number of great mobile apps that allow limited editing and full map features like Organic Maps
Edit: I didn’t know about Vespucci, which is a full-featured OSM editor for Android. Thanks, @onyxjet@lemmy.world
Also be sure to check out !open_street_maps@lemmy.world
merde@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Feb 2025 03:49
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Gulf of Cuba
:)
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 04:29
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Cuba
United States
Mexico
Gulf of C.U.M.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 11 Feb 2025 06:21
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you mean of course, to put the US on top, right. #USANumber1
/s of course, if it wasn’t obvious
onyxjet@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 03:53
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Vespucci is also full editor for android.
There is also Go Map! A primary editor for IOS.
Every door is a mobile editor that allows you to add new things and edit existing ones.
ID is the main OpenStreetMap website editor.
Rapid, essentially just ID but with a special edition of automatic building suggestions and such or what they call mapwithai.
JOSM a full on editor for desktop, does everything ID or Rapid can do and a whole lot more. Its more of an advanced editor.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Feb 2025 04:47
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Did the same in my area. The roads are good, but the businesses are either missing or outdated. I probably added 100 over the last few months.
It’s kinds fun! When I go out, I check OM and see what’s missing, take some pictures, and then go edit a bunch of stuff that night. It doesn’t take long, and I feel like it’s worth my time.
FergleFFergleson@infosec.pub
on 11 Feb 2025 05:04
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Thanks for providing that link. I knew about OSM, but didn’t fully grasp that (duh) it’s open which means I can help with the data. Time to get busy! :)
FierceNerd@lemm.ee
on 11 Feb 2025 06:29
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Did not know about Street Complete. Thanks for the recommendation!
Allero@lemmy.today
on 11 Feb 2025 08:35
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Recently began contributing to OpenStreetMap. Information on my place is quite outdated, lots of work to do!
Street Complete is amazing!
Perfect for people who find going on a walk too boring, like me
Vanth@reddthat.com
on 11 Feb 2025 04:02
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Huh, do they really change names of international things when only one party says so?
Denali/McKinely is one thing, it’s part of the US. But the Gulf of Mexico is a mix of US, Mexico, Cuba, and international waters. I wonder what they show Google Maps users who are in Mexico.
marcos@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 04:17
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They have clear rules for contested areas… that they follow in an as clear way as their user support rules.
That’s reassuring. We all know that google is the best at user support.
VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Feb 2025 09:52
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I found this paragraph…
Can Trump change the name of the Gulf of Mexico? Maybe, but it’s not a unilateral decision, and other countries don’t have to go along. The International Hydrographic Organization — of which both the US and Mexico are members — works to ensure all the world’s seas, oceans and navigable waters are surveyed and charted uniformly, and also names some of them. There are instances where countries refer to the same body of water or landmark by different names in their own documentation.
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
on 11 Feb 2025 10:47
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Naming things is complicated.
It’s not really a case where some organisation has the authority to name something. Rather people just call something a name, and organisations adopt that name.
_lilith@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 04:06
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Sunshine@lemmy.ca
on 11 Feb 2025 04:41
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It’s a massive upgrade in terms of aesthetics and privacy!
Junkernaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 11 Feb 2025 11:38
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I love that it’s not google, and the UI is nice, but the lack of realtime traffic info is a real blocker for me
gedaliyah@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 12:38
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You might be interested in Magic Earth it is also built on OpenStreetMap but includes crowdsourced traffic data. If you are in a big city then it’s likely they have good data for your area.
HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
on 11 Feb 2025 15:34
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gedaliyah@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 12:31
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Also a great choice. I prefer organic maps for a variety of reasons (like ability to contribute to the maps), but a lot of people prefer OsmAnd. They are both very good.
superkret@feddit.org
on 11 Feb 2025 19:50
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Organic Maps has fewer features and settings, a more stripped-down user interface, and concentrates on what most people use the most (find an address, navigate to it).
It is also much, much faster than OsmAnd.
Personally, I find OsmAnd too slow and clunky, and Organic Maps a bit too basic.
But I prefer Organic Maps 95% of the time.
OsmAnd is the Swiss army knife of Open Street Map frontends, but as I’m sure you’ll agree on (if you’ve used it), it can be a bit of a headache setting it up, as well as getting familiar with it.
Organic Maps caters more to people seeking a pure alternative to Google/Apple Maps. It’s the layman’s alternative.
If you’re a poweruser, and already familiar with OsmAnd, there’s no point in switching. But in terms of getting other, non tech savvy, people to switch, it’s a great recommendation!
marcos@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 04:18
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Hum… Did they change the name of the North-America’s South-West like the Mexico president requested too?
the_doktor@lemmy.zip
on 11 Feb 2025 05:14
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Send a complaint through the site. Flood them with complaints about how they are an evil corporation licking Trump’s boot and that it’s the Gulf of Mexico.
Tattorack@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 09:25
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Same here in Europe.
This is highly irregular for several reasons:
Google adheres to official government positions, yes, but as far as I’m aware the American government hasn’t made the name change official yet. Members of the government have said that they’d do this, but I don’t think this idea has passed any process yet. So then why is Google “updated” their maps?
When Google adheres to official government positions, they are local. In example, when you’re in China and look up Taiwan, it’ll appear as part of China. In other countries it’ll appear as either an independent country or a disputed territory, depending on that government’s official position on the matter. What we DON’T see is something like “Taiwan (China)”, as Google supposedly has no intention on forcing the policies of one government upon another government, and as far as I’m aware the rest of the world hasn’t agreed to changing The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America.
If anyone’s interested, here’s what it looks like in Europe. The good news: this is the first time I’ve had to use Google Maps in a loooong time (ignoring embedded maps in other sites). OpenStreetMap is wonderful and there are some superb apps powered by it, including the ever-excellent Organic Maps.
Unfortunately Organic Maps doesn’t really work well. I gave it a shot yesterday at work (I work food delivery on bicycle), and it couldn’t find half the addresses I needed to go to.
While the Interior Department confirmed that the Gulf of America name was effective for U.S. federal agencies, on January 24, the change does not apply in an international context.
ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca
on 11 Feb 2025 05:49
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That’s a weird flex by South Canada.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 05:59
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Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 07:55
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This is the way.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 18:56
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Bingo.
Imagine getting every “alpha male” 2A nutjob violent conservative to realize who their actual enemy is.
We’d get some actual positive change in an extremely short period of time.
thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 05:59
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DarkFuture@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 18:57
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A born rich low IQ loser jerking himself off while we’re all forced to watch, courtesy of the average low IQ American voter.
jaemo@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Feb 2025 10:17
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Cool.
In not at all related news disabling Google maps on your Android device can often be a source of delight! I never knew how capable organic maps was and it has a very nice auto integration.
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk
on 11 Feb 2025 10:44
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I don’t honestly see a big issue with this. First of all: It’s called Gulf of America, not Gulf of USA. Considering it’s a gulf between south and north American continents it’s actually a more fitting name and in no way excludes Mexico.
And secondly, you can just move on with your life and keep calling it the Gulf of Mexico and everyone will perfectly understand what you mean. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and telling you to adopt the new name. Same applies to Twitter and Facebook too for example.
CitricBase@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 11:10
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The “big issue” with this it that it is being done entirely to appease the vain whims of an egocentric wannabe dictator, and for no other reason.
Engywuck@lemm.ee
on 11 Feb 2025 11:46
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+1. Couldn’t care less. My life will go on. I’m not going to use GMaps anyway.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 12:11
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Nobody is holding a gun to your head
Give them a few months
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk
on 11 Feb 2025 12:54
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Allright. Let’s revisit this in 6 months to see what happened - or didn’t.
ubergeek@lemmy.today
on 11 Feb 2025 16:48
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Changing facts to suit a nationalist and fascist state, purely for jingoism, is appeasement.
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk
on 11 Feb 2025 18:22
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This doesn’t really have anything to do with facts, though. Names of people, objects and places change all the time.
ubergeek@lemmy.today
on 11 Feb 2025 20:00
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Yes, based on nationalist reasons, to chnage facts to suit governments.
This is no different to google kowtowing to China’s imagined borders.
The fact is the worls knows this is the Gulf of Mexico. Not whatever Trump imagines it to be callled. Denali is still Denali, as well.
afronaut@lemmy.cafe
on 11 Feb 2025 11:20
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I’m in the process of migrating my saved locations and addresses to Organic Maps. Bye Google.
mrmule@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 11:26
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I’m in Canada, and Google maps shows me the same as what you are seeing.
vodkasolution@feddit.it
on 11 Feb 2025 12:03
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<img alt="UNITED STATES OF NORTH MEXICO" src="https://feddit.it/pictrs/image/86483b5c-0bc0-4328-8b09-10864474ca27.png">
I’m gonna start creating new pubs, bars and so on, everywhere I go, and call them Trump’s Mexican Deli, Donnie & Elon’s vacancy hotel, and so on. Please contribute (use an alternative google account)
vodkasolution@feddit.it
on 11 Feb 2025 12:03
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It reads:
I read “Gulf of America”. That must be a mistake.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de
on 11 Feb 2025 15:22
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Obviously that’s not going to make one iota of difference. They’re an American company and they have been ordered by the president of the country to do this. They already do similar things in other authoritarian countries like China and Turkey, because anything else would risk the safety of Google employees.
If you don’t like it, change to a non-American product and/or vote for a different president.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 11 Feb 2025 16:33
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The American president can only order so much. As of yesterday, the BGN has changed the name, but this affects Federal Government usage. Google as a private company could continue to use the common name if they wanted to.
This is why Open Street Maps has a “name” field and “official name” field, for where these two aren’t the same. This is already the case for the English names “Saigon” and “Ho Chi Minh City” which refer to the same place in Vietnam.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de
on 11 Feb 2025 17:44
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Well, that’s apparently for the courts to decide. In the meantime they have an executive order to contend with. Google has reclassified the U.S. as a “sensitive country” along with other authoritarian regimes and I’m convinced that this is partly out of concern for the safety of Google employees. Who knows what maga cultists might do if they don’t comply.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 11 Feb 2025 18:32
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Personally I think that obeying in advance only makes it a riskier place for the employees, but it is not my decision to make.
Regardless, I don’t see what issue the courts would have with a private company using the common name of a geographical feature instead of the official government name. That would be a violation of the 1st amendment protection of free speech from government intervention.
vodkasolution@feddit.it
on 11 Feb 2025 17:45
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I somehow have a feeling that being president of the USA does not mean you can do whatever you want and people have to follow… Google Map, for one, is a product of a private company, not a Federal Service of the USA - so if they want to call it “Gulf of Google”, they could!
Then you’re right, they already protect/black out places and some places’ names, however the Gulf of America, like the Channel of Washington are just bs that in the worst case scenario will live 4 years. So it’s a joke and I like joking too
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 11 Feb 2025 16:38
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I can’t seem to do this from the phone app
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
on 11 Feb 2025 12:43
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Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.
TimboSlice@discuss.online
on 11 Feb 2025 13:53
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Just swapped apps. Thanks for the suggestion!
moakley@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 15:55
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I’m all for swapping apps, but Organic Maps doesn’t even have my home address. And I live in a major metropolitan area.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
on 11 Feb 2025 15:58
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That solves the problem this time, but it doesn’t help if I’m trying to navigate somewhere new.
If it doesn’t have the address for a 30-year-old house in a major metropolitan area, then I just don’t think it’s a viable replacement for Google Maps, unfortunately.
ArtVandelay@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 19:30
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I wish OSM had the resources to make something akin to Pokemon Go but instead of capturing something, it adds it to the database.
Thanks, I was following this thread and wanted to say the same thing
I’ve kept updating shops that change, new houses, parking, etc… it’s great. I even used it on vacation (when the SO wasn’t looking)
My global rank is #1554 and ~#130ish in my local country, but #12 in another country I barely visit, so it shows where more people should complain less support more.
superkret@feddit.org
on 11 Feb 2025 19:57
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Every time I try to navigate to an address that’s missing in OSM, I just navigate to the nearest one instead. It’s not a big deal.
And when I have 5 minutes of free time, I add the address.
That’s how OSM works. There isn’t a dev or company to blame, you can literally fix the missing data yourself. And that’s the only way it works.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee
on 11 Feb 2025 18:02
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My test search for the UPS store up the street sent me 4km away. So…not great.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 11 Feb 2025 16:26
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I use Google maps mostly to find out where things are, and unfortunately OSM does not have as many places as Google Maps. I can add one or two places I notice are missing (even though the phone interface isn’t that easy) but Google Maps consistently has better information, so I mostly use organic maps for when I already know the address or already know the location is in its database.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 Feb 04:08
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The traffic conditions is huge tho
Just last week, that philly plane crash, I saw exactly where the roads are closed and which roads are congested.
I just tried it and found three dealbreakers instantly.
It doesn’t have my address (I know I could add it but who knows what else it’s missing)
It couldn’t find any public transport routes in my area
There is no satellite view
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 13:52
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And you’ll see Amerida right at the bottom of the picture, that’s the capital of Floricatan in the country of America… Have you guys noticed how our country’s name is not America? I would be a fucking retard if I named something “of America” when my country’s name isn’t America. As an example, all Mexican coins say “estados unidos mexicanos” or something like that. But the country is Mexico. Mexico is in America, but they don’t say “mexico of America”, because they are not fucking retarded.
HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
on 11 Feb 2025 15:31
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bing still shows correctly for me.
cmhe@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 16:00
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Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.
The resolution is introducing “official_name” tags, referencing “en_us”, because “en” is not just the U.S.:
Though to be fair cringe is like right in the very blood to Google anyway so what would you expect…
I mean, just look at how they often respond on their bug tracker platform of most of their products and how they try to justify their endless streams of questionable design decisions, that seems to be characteristic of them at this point lol
mRbLUE@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 17:04
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Would be shame if google are snowed under with reports the name is wrong :-)
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
on 11 Feb 2025 19:58
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Just tried: the ‘report an issue’/‘suggest an edit’ button doesn’t appear when The Gulf of Mexico is selected.
It does for other locations, but not for the Gulf.
They did say both names, but this is a complete cop out.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 18:53
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Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.
Even if it never gets changed back, it’ll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.
Hey conservatives, not that you’re intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?
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What a bunch of cucks! The billionaires have fully taken over!
They took it over from the millionaires!
For them to not exist and to stop it they need to be cleaned over regularly. Some countries had that figured out.
and the trillionaires will soon take over!
What’s that sucking sound?
I mean Google’s a huge pushover anyway. Who cares what they think.
Apple Maps currently shows it as Gulf of Mexico, fwiw.
They are coming for our freedom fries next.
This is stupid! I see both names displayed, at least. But still stupid.
(viewed from Canada)
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/f94e0836-7f37-4190-9f5b-47b8449c3ad5.jpeg">
Same, but in Japan.
If you zoom in does it change? Mine does. I’m in the us
No
Same in Europe
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/8586f86d-f9c0-4911-8245-a75a217f3bd5.webp">
<img alt="" src="https://jlai.lu/pictrs/image/4b30bdbe-6fe3-420e-a7ce-eebfe0b46751.jpeg">
Same in a little bit to your west Europe.
Had to check.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a05f2bfb-c275-4a88-ac18-b1aacc0a1905.png">
Slowly working towards a viable OpenStreetMap in my area. If you want to help, you can make a free account and begin editing: www.openstreetmap.org/user/new
You can also contribute on mobile by using Street Complete or any number of great mobile apps that allow limited editing and full map features like Organic Maps
Edit: I didn’t know about Vespucci, which is a full-featured OSM editor for Android. Thanks, @onyxjet@lemmy.world
Also be sure to check out !open_street_maps@lemmy.world
Gulf of Cuba
:)
Cuba
United States
Mexico
Gulf of C.U.M.
you mean of course, to put the US on top, right. #USANumber1
/s of course, if it wasn’t obvious
Vespucci is also full editor for android.
There is also Go Map! A primary editor for IOS.
Every door is a mobile editor that allows you to add new things and edit existing ones.
ID is the main OpenStreetMap website editor.
Rapid, essentially just ID but with a special edition of automatic building suggestions and such or what they call mapwithai.
JOSM a full on editor for desktop, does everything ID or Rapid can do and a whole lot more. Its more of an advanced editor.
Did the same in my area. The roads are good, but the businesses are either missing or outdated. I probably added 100 over the last few months.
It’s kinds fun! When I go out, I check OM and see what’s missing, take some pictures, and then go edit a bunch of stuff that night. It doesn’t take long, and I feel like it’s worth my time.
Thanks for providing that link. I knew about OSM, but didn’t fully grasp that (duh) it’s open which means I can help with the data. Time to get busy! :)
Did not know about Street Complete. Thanks for the recommendation!
Recently began contributing to OpenStreetMap. Information on my place is quite outdated, lots of work to do!
Street Complete is amazing! Perfect for people who find going on a walk too boring, like me
Huh, do they really change names of international things when only one party says so?
Denali/McKinely is one thing, it’s part of the US. But the Gulf of Mexico is a mix of US, Mexico, Cuba, and international waters. I wonder what they show Google Maps users who are in Mexico.
They have clear rules for contested areas… that they follow in an as clear way as their user support rules.
That’s reassuring. We all know that google is the best at user support.
I found this paragraph…
From this webpage… pbs.org/…/can-trump-change-the-name-of-the-gulf-o…
Naming things is complicated.
It’s not really a case where some organisation has the authority to name something. Rather people just call something a name, and organisations adopt that name.
What a great time to download Organic maps
It’s a massive upgrade in terms of aesthetics and privacy!
I love that it’s not google, and the UI is nice, but the lack of realtime traffic info is a real blocker for me
You might be interested in Magic Earth it is also built on OpenStreetMap but includes crowdsourced traffic data. If you are in a big city then it’s likely they have good data for your area.
is there a web version?
How does it compare to OsmAnd?
Also a great choice. I prefer organic maps for a variety of reasons (like ability to contribute to the maps), but a lot of people prefer OsmAnd. They are both very good.
Organic Maps has fewer features and settings, a more stripped-down user interface, and concentrates on what most people use the most (find an address, navigate to it).
It is also much, much faster than OsmAnd.
Personally, I find OsmAnd too slow and clunky, and Organic Maps a bit too basic.
But I prefer Organic Maps 95% of the time.
OsmAnd is the Swiss army knife of Open Street Map frontends, but as I’m sure you’ll agree on (if you’ve used it), it can be a bit of a headache setting it up, as well as getting familiar with it.
Organic Maps caters more to people seeking a pure alternative to Google/Apple Maps. It’s the layman’s alternative.
If you’re a poweruser, and already familiar with OsmAnd, there’s no point in switching. But in terms of getting other, non tech savvy, people to switch, it’s a great recommendation!
Hum… Did they change the name of the North-America’s South-West like the Mexico president requested too?
Send a complaint through the site. Flood them with complaints about how they are an evil corporation licking Trump’s boot and that it’s the Gulf of Mexico.
Don’t let these damn corporations win.
You do you, but that is literally yelling at a cloud.
Stop using Google services altogether, delete your accounts. Block ads. That’s the only way to cost them some pennies.
Apple still has it as Gulf of Mexico.
OK, so why am I seeing Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) from Canada?
If Justin Trudeau gets active on this, you can probably get it to Gulf of Canada (Gulf of Mexico) (Gulf of America).
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Same here in Europe.
This is highly irregular for several reasons:
Google adheres to official government positions, yes, but as far as I’m aware the American government hasn’t made the name change official yet. Members of the government have said that they’d do this, but I don’t think this idea has passed any process yet. So then why is Google “updated” their maps?
When Google adheres to official government positions, they are local. In example, when you’re in China and look up Taiwan, it’ll appear as part of China. In other countries it’ll appear as either an independent country or a disputed territory, depending on that government’s official position on the matter. What we DON’T see is something like “Taiwan (China)”, as Google supposedly has no intention on forcing the policies of one government upon another government, and as far as I’m aware the rest of the world hasn’t agreed to changing The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America.
<img alt="" src="https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/0a3f31f4-43d3-4e48-8074-696c45cec810.webp">
If anyone’s interested, here’s what it looks like in Europe. The good news: this is the first time I’ve had to use Google Maps in a loooong time (ignoring embedded maps in other sites). OpenStreetMap is wonderful and there are some superb apps powered by it, including the ever-excellent Organic Maps.
Unfortunately Organic Maps doesn’t really work well. I gave it a shot yesterday at work (I work food delivery on bicycle), and it couldn’t find half the addresses I needed to go to.
From the Wikipedia for Gulf of Mexico:
That’s a weird flex by South Canada.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
This is the way.
Bingo.
Imagine getting every “alpha male” 2A nutjob violent conservative to realize who their actual enemy is.
We’d get some actual positive change in an extremely short period of time.
What the fuck is this shit?
.
A born rich low IQ loser jerking himself off while we’re all forced to watch, courtesy of the average low IQ American voter.
Cool.
In not at all related news disabling Google maps on your Android device can often be a source of delight! I never knew how capable organic maps was and it has a very nice auto integration.
I don’t honestly see a big issue with this. First of all: It’s called Gulf of America, not Gulf of USA. Considering it’s a gulf between south and north American continents it’s actually a more fitting name and in no way excludes Mexico.
And secondly, you can just move on with your life and keep calling it the Gulf of Mexico and everyone will perfectly understand what you mean. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and telling you to adopt the new name. Same applies to Twitter and Facebook too for example.
The “big issue” with this it that it is being done entirely to appease the vain whims of an egocentric wannabe dictator, and for no other reason.
+1. Couldn’t care less. My life will go on. I’m not going to use GMaps anyway.
Give them a few months
Allright. Let’s revisit this in 6 months to see what happened - or didn’t.
Changing facts to suit a nationalist and fascist state, purely for jingoism, is appeasement.
This doesn’t really have anything to do with facts, though. Names of people, objects and places change all the time.
Yes, based on nationalist reasons, to chnage facts to suit governments.
This is no different to google kowtowing to China’s imagined borders.
The fact is the worls knows this is the Gulf of Mexico. Not whatever Trump imagines it to be callled. Denali is still Denali, as well.
I’m in the process of migrating my saved locations and addresses to Organic Maps. Bye Google.
I’m currently in France, this is what I see on Google maps Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4087866b-7cf6-49ee-aed6-9eaad391d32b.jpeg">
What a f*cking joke 😂
Maps.me shows the real name <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d98dfc21-130b-49f2-ad02-d415e347e6c6.jpeg">
As does mappy.cz
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I’m in Canada, and Google maps shows me the same as what you are seeing.
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I’m gonna start creating new pubs, bars and so on, everywhere I go, and call them Trump’s Mexican Deli, Donnie & Elon’s vacancy hotel, and so on. Please contribute (use an alternative google account)
Also, report an error to google maps:
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It reads: I read “Gulf of America”. That must be a mistake.
Obviously that’s not going to make one iota of difference. They’re an American company and they have been ordered by the president of the country to do this. They already do similar things in other authoritarian countries like China and Turkey, because anything else would risk the safety of Google employees.
If you don’t like it, change to a non-American product and/or vote for a different president.
The American president can only order so much. As of yesterday, the BGN has changed the name, but this affects Federal Government usage. Google as a private company could continue to use the common name if they wanted to.
This is why Open Street Maps has a “name” field and “official name” field, for where these two aren’t the same. This is already the case for the English names “Saigon” and “Ho Chi Minh City” which refer to the same place in Vietnam.
Well, that’s apparently for the courts to decide. In the meantime they have an executive order to contend with. Google has reclassified the U.S. as a “sensitive country” along with other authoritarian regimes and I’m convinced that this is partly out of concern for the safety of Google employees. Who knows what maga cultists might do if they don’t comply.
Personally I think that obeying in advance only makes it a riskier place for the employees, but it is not my decision to make.
Regardless, I don’t see what issue the courts would have with a private company using the common name of a geographical feature instead of the official government name. That would be a violation of the 1st amendment protection of free speech from government intervention.
I somehow have a feeling that being president of the USA does not mean you can do whatever you want and people have to follow… Google Map, for one, is a product of a private company, not a Federal Service of the USA - so if they want to call it “Gulf of Google”, they could!
Then you’re right, they already protect/black out places and some places’ names, however the Gulf of America, like the Channel of Washington are just bs that in the worst case scenario will live 4 years. So it’s a joke and I like joking too
I can’t seem to do this from the phone app
Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.
Just swapped apps. Thanks for the suggestion!
I’m all for swapping apps, but Organic Maps doesn’t even have my home address. And I live in a major metropolitan area.
Add it to OSM?
That solves the problem this time, but it doesn’t help if I’m trying to navigate somewhere new.
If it doesn’t have the address for a 30-year-old house in a major metropolitan area, then I just don’t think it’s a viable replacement for Google Maps, unfortunately.
I wish OSM had the resources to make something akin to Pokemon Go but instead of capturing something, it adds it to the database.
You are in luck my friend: streetcomplete.app
They have made it super easy and fun. I have been playing it for nearly a year and have made a pretty big dent in my local dense metro area.
oh yay!!
Thanks, I was following this thread and wanted to say the same thing
I’ve kept updating shops that change, new houses, parking, etc… it’s great. I even used it on vacation (when the SO wasn’t looking)
My global rank is #1554 and ~#130ish in my local country, but #12 in another country I barely visit, so it shows where more people should
complain lesssupport more.Wow good work, my global ranking is #2449.
Ha, yeah it’s good that you slowly clear out your local area because my SO did not appreciate me trying to answer questions while we walked.
Found this thing yesterday. I’ve contributed to OSM more in a day than in the previous year. It’s great.
This is actually incredible. Thanks for sharing!
Every time I try to navigate to an address that’s missing in OSM, I just navigate to the nearest one instead. It’s not a big deal.
And when I have 5 minutes of free time, I add the address.
That’s how OSM works. There isn’t a dev or company to blame, you can literally fix the missing data yourself. And that’s the only way it works.
My test search for the UPS store up the street sent me 4km away. So…not great.
I use Google maps mostly to find out where things are, and unfortunately OSM does not have as many places as Google Maps. I can add one or two places I notice are missing (even though the phone interface isn’t that easy) but Google Maps consistently has better information, so I mostly use organic maps for when I already know the address or already know the location is in its database.
The traffic conditions is huge tho
Just last week, that philly plane crash, I saw exactly where the roads are closed and which roads are congested.
I just tried it and found three dealbreakers instantly.
It doesn’t have my address (I know I could add it but who knows what else it’s missing)
It couldn’t find any public transport routes in my area
There is no satellite view
And you’ll see Amerida right at the bottom of the picture, that’s the capital of Floricatan in the country of America… Have you guys noticed how our country’s name is not America? I would be a fucking retard if I named something “of America” when my country’s name isn’t America. As an example, all Mexican coins say “estados unidos mexicanos” or something like that. But the country is Mexico. Mexico is in America, but they don’t say “mexico of America”, because they are not fucking retarded.
bing still shows correctly for me.
Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.
The resolution is introducing “official_name” tags, referencing “en_us”, because “en” is not just the U.S.:
community.openstreetmap.org/t/…/11
So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.
Current description of that node: www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80
So maybe that could be a reason for everyone around the world to stop using en_US locale settings. XD
This whole thing is extremely cringe. There isn’t any other way to put it. Trump. His executive order. The compliance. It’s all cringe.
Though to be fair cringe is like right in the very blood to Google anyway so what would you expect…
I mean, just look at how they often respond on their bug tracker platform of most of their products and how they try to justify their endless streams of questionable design decisions, that seems to be characteristic of them at this point lol
Would be shame if google are snowed under with reports the name is wrong :-)
Just tried: the ‘report an issue’/‘suggest an edit’ button doesn’t appear when The Gulf of Mexico is selected.
It does for other locations, but not for the Gulf.
It’s because people already Mass reported it so they disabled the ability for it
Report an issue through the base report feature
Open maps > your profile picture > last option on the list
You can directly reference and include a screenshot of the map
Genuinely curious… How does Google handle other oceanic naming that isn’t agreed upon Worldwide?
<img alt="Google Maps view of the Southern Ocean around Antarctica" src="https://infosec.pub/pictrs/image/c5523fe4-fd75-4dc6-bb8b-a13186fd920a.png">
Generally, Google shows the appropriate name based upon where you are located. So for everyone outside of 'murica, it’s still the Gulf of Mexico.
They said that but it’s a fat lie.
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They did say both names, but this is a complete cop out.
Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.
Even if it never gets changed back, it’ll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.
Hey conservatives, not that you’re intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?
You eat your Freedom Fries and you like it
Google can officially gargle deez nutz
Cancun Texas! Have you guys been? Its beautiful! Just a short flight across the golf of America and located in southflorida…Flucatan.
Well. O. K. Then it’s my not the 'USA" that did this anymore. It’s to be called “North Mexico” now. Fair’s fair.
Using google maps from Australia it’s labelled like “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)”
I think the Australian government should call it “gulf of not Australia” and see if google adds another title.