China Is Stealing AI Secrets to Turbocharge Spying, U.S. Says
(www.wsj.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 29 Dec 2023 02:00
https://lemmy.world/post/10079153
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 29 Dec 2023 02:00
https://lemmy.world/post/10079153
China Is Stealing AI Secrets to Turbocharge Spying, U.S. Says::U.S. officials are worried about hacking and insider theft of AI secrets, which China has denied
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State’s military uses tool to spy on other states!
…And in other news, water is wet!
Comments like this are insufferable.
China’s spying apparatus is on a whole other level. They’ve been using AI for years to “turbocharge” their domestic surveillance state; now they’re trying to take that capability global–with quite some initial success.
As a side note, I don’t understand why so many folks aren’t worried about another superpower replacing the US’s slowly waning stranglehold. Look at all the fucked up shit the US has done around the world, and that’s with a quasi-democratic government that at least has a modicum of domestic and international accountability. Now replace that with a totalitarian regime that virtually answers to no one. I mean, this is the same regime that has committed a genocide within just the last decade. Can you imagine what they’ll be capable of when they’re the main powerbroker that has no peers?
And no, this is not me wanting the US empire to remain in place. I’d prefer a transparent, egalitarian governing system across the globe.
Can’t speak for others, but personally I simply find them both worrying. The Chinese and US states are both foreign powers that wish to track everything I do and use it to control me in the future.
Which US-led, US-backed agencies are you referring to as delivering accountability for the US? The ones they have veto power in too?
Not trying to “both are equally bad”. China’s output of political violence is ostensibly worse, but you seem to be dismissing the legitimate concern that the source for this is the US regime, whose political interest is for us to point fingers at China as they continue working behind our backs.
We know to be cautious of China, yet any time someone brings up “we should be cautious of the US too”, the response is “China’s worse”, deflecting from the real threat that the US presents globally.
Preferably, I’d like to see all these superpowers overthrown, the states broken up, and a union a la the EU to form with more global pursuits, or the EU itself to expand beyond European borders, while continuing to be genuinely voluntary while also being both politically and economically beneficial for all member-states.
These articles are very easy to write and you can see how emotional people get. You don’t need proof and it always works.
Everytime there’s an article about what “China/Russia/India/North Korea/or Whatever Says”, social media goes:
And then whenever there is “US Says”
NO FUCKING PROOF REQUIRED!! Anyone questions?
I mean fuck all authoritarian regimes, but it’s funny to see how social media (especially in US) reacts to these articles and riles them up. Also great for election season.
Standard hypocrisy from propaganda rotted brains at work
I don’t like the US government a lot, but if I need to pick my poison it would 100% be the USA instead of China.
Also, I kinda agree with you on having superior governing bodies like the EU on a global scale, but it brings some hardship with it.
The EU is already struggling pretty hard with some of the states not seeing eye to eye and others gaming the system for their own political benefits. Above all, Hungary and Poland, which shit on the EU every single day while enjoying all the benefits.
It’s cynicism about the clear hypocrisy of the situation.
It’s the equivalent of your bully telling you to keep your lunch money safe while pointing at an other bully. It’s a bit hard not to roll your eyes.
Hey, to be fair the bully who is warning you to keep your lunch money safe from the other bully is the currently the USA. Immediate wrongdoing will always have a place, even in the face of likely worse wrongdoing that is set to be in the future.
And one thing also, for the upper comment: Drone striking a whole people, changing the strike type every decade, and carrying out genocide over a prolonged time does not make mass killings any better than a hands-on approach. One produces more reaction, fucks up generations completely, assimilates or annihilates whole cultures, the other is a swift solution in service of a fucked-up ethos. Neither is favorable in comparison.
Def reasons for concern, especially considering the CCP is expanding their genocide of Uyghurs in Xinjiang in the face of tepid international response
The US was really awful on its watch. It’s really hard to imagine even China might do worse. There are no good custodians of the international community.
Now with Thom at the Warf to hear what they fish are saying about this splashing new development.
Lol right?
“Modern technology is advancing use of technology to more modern methods of technology use.”
Operative word here is “could”. Of course US officials say that, because it’s what they’re trying to do. Really they’re just whining about the “stealing” part.
Doesnt matter what AI things they steal. Theyre stuck at, like, 7nm chips, and even thats probably not gonna be around if/when the whole jenga tower topples.
Bro, they have 5nm in Huawei phones
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Learning how to spy from the best! 😘
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licensing your comments has the same energy as throwing salt over your shoulder.
Actually it makes sense
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I think it’s closer to those Facebook posts from grandma saying “faebook does not have the right to MAH PHOTOS”
Lol imagine the state of reddit, Facebook etc if everyone started licesing their comment.
Why are you licensing the comments?
Some sovereign citizen bullshit.
It’s legally unenforceable.
Good for a laugh, though!
America is being a little bitch as usual. China’s rise is too much for the white racists to handle.