JackDark@lemmy.world
on 27 Sep 2024 15:22
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It uses AI to rearrange and resize content when you are printing from the internet. The example is pretty compelling, but doesn’t make up for everything else HP does.
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca
on 27 Sep 2024 15:27
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KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
on 27 Sep 2024 17:00
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The example in the article reduces a recipe print from 47 pages to 1 by using AI to remove all of the filler garbage and leaves just the recipe instructions. Slightly different than just rearranging elements.
robolemmy@lemmy.world
on 27 Sep 2024 17:37
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Paprika 3 recipe manager does that too, plus it adds it to a local database, without any AI bullshit or HP account.
Yup, it’s a cool feature and I’ll be sure to get some kind of open source tool that leverages my own computer ressources and isn’t tied to such a terrible printer to do it.
lurch@sh.itjust.works
on 27 Sep 2024 15:30
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Huge article and it’s just “Perfect Output” an AI to adjust printer settings and page setup. Don’t read this waste of time.
AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world
on 27 Sep 2024 15:45
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One could use Perfect Output to quickly fix image sizes and remove ads and white space when printing something off a website, HP says as an example.
So Reader Mode for printing?
That seems like a feature that would be better handled by the browser than the printer—this is the equivalent of implementing reader mode by adding AI to your monitor.
Plus, is this sending my data to HP to be processed remotely as a cloud service, or is this AI stuff being run locally? I don’t especially want to have the contents of my print jobs being sent to HP.
AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world
on 27 Sep 2024 16:21
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I wouldn’t be surprised if their AI rewrites their terms of service every time you try to print it.
callmepk@lemmy.world
on 27 Sep 2024 16:03
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Hi HP, I want my printer boring as it should be
BombOmOm@lemmy.world
on 27 Sep 2024 17:06
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turtletracks@lemmy.zip
on 27 Sep 2024 19:51
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Right? And what do you mean, untrustworthy? If anything, HP artificially created that issue lol
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club
on 27 Sep 2024 16:38
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Dont care. The only HP printers I’ll ever use moving forward are gonna be any I happen to get for free.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
on 27 Sep 2024 17:27
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…any I happen to get for free and I have no other working printers. I have a Brother color laser, so they have nothing I want.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club
on 27 Sep 2024 18:11
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Yep. My parents have a Brother printer that I use, and I work in IT and got a free HP printer that I’m holding onto for when I move out. Otherwise, I’d buy a Brother printer.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
on 27 Sep 2024 18:13
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Tough place to be. Really, who’s going to give away a working Brother printer?
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
on 27 Sep 2024 18:39
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When I print something, I certainly don’t want AI messing with it. I often use a printed copy to make sure something will fit before I 3D print it or have a PCB made. I need it to print exactly at 100% scale.
I would love to have the page cleanup feature built into my web browser though. Hardly any sites include a print layout anymore.
I mean you can but it won’t look like the examples shown. Reader modes tend to focus on the text to the detriment of the pictures and formatting.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
on 28 Sep 2024 14:51
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Also they don’t include comments, which are a huge part of my reading. I save pages to read on a e-ink tablet for comfort, html where pictures are irrelevant but pdf in case of any graphics.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
on 28 Sep 2024 15:01
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Fair enough. But I don’t think not using it for this use case will change much.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world
on 27 Sep 2024 19:59
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Or… just copy the text that you want to print in libreoffice and print from there
Moreover, I don’t understand why HP is wasting lots of server processing power for this. If someone prints one page instead of 47, then they can downgrade from the highest plan of their ink subscription with 100 monthly pages to the lowest cheapest plan with only 15 pages. Maybe they plan to include a page with sponsored coupons in the printout?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
on 28 Sep 2024 14:58
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What, “decent”? They’re just jumping on the AI bandwagon.
SomeGuy69@lemmy.world
on 29 Sep 2024 10:38
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HP is doing a lot of advertisement lately, the boycott must show first fruits. Fuck HP.
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It uses AI to rearrange and resize content when you are printing from the internet. The example is pretty compelling, but doesn’t make up for everything else HP does.
I must be living in the future…
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The example in the article reduces a recipe print from 47 pages to 1 by using AI to remove all of the filler garbage and leaves just the recipe instructions. Slightly different than just rearranging elements.
Paprika 3 recipe manager does that too, plus it adds it to a local database, without any AI bullshit or HP account.
Yup, it’s a cool feature and I’ll be sure to get some kind of open source tool that leverages my own computer ressources and isn’t tied to such a terrible printer to do it.
Huge article and it’s just “Perfect Output” an AI to adjust printer settings and page setup. Don’t read this waste of time.
So Reader Mode for printing?
That seems like a feature that would be better handled by the browser than the printer—this is the equivalent of implementing reader mode by adding AI to your monitor.
Plus, is this sending my data to HP to be processed remotely as a cloud service, or is this AI stuff being run locally? I don’t especially want to have the contents of my print jobs being sent to HP.
I wouldn’t be surprised if their AI rewrites their terms of service every time you try to print it.
Hi HP, I want my printer boring as it should be
The best printer is still whatever Brother Laser Printer is on sale.
Right? And what do you mean, untrustworthy? If anything, HP artificially created that issue lol
Dont care. The only HP printers I’ll ever use moving forward are gonna be any I happen to get for free.
…any I happen to get for free and I have no other working printers. I have a Brother color laser, so they have nothing I want.
Yep. My parents have a Brother printer that I use, and I work in IT and got a free HP printer that I’m holding onto for when I move out. Otherwise, I’d buy a Brother printer.
Tough place to be. Really, who’s going to give away a working Brother printer?
When I print something, I certainly don’t want AI messing with it. I often use a printed copy to make sure something will fit before I 3D print it or have a PCB made. I need it to print exactly at 100% scale.
I would love to have the page cleanup feature built into my web browser though. Hardly any sites include a print layout anymore.
I would definitely use it for the examples like recipes and spreadsheeets to improve the formatting if it worked as shown.
can’t we just print the reader mode page of Firefox?
I mean you can but it won’t look like the examples shown. Reader modes tend to focus on the text to the detriment of the pictures and formatting.
Also they don’t include comments, which are a huge part of my reading. I save pages to read on a e-ink tablet for comfort, html where pictures are irrelevant but pdf in case of any graphics.
Wow. Now we use AI to fix formatting issues.
If it works, why not?
Green computing.
Fair enough. But I don’t think not using it for this use case will change much.
Or… just copy the text that you want to print in libreoffice and print from there
Moreover, I don’t understand why HP is wasting lots of server processing power for this. If someone prints one page instead of 47, then they can downgrade from the highest plan of their ink subscription with 100 monthly pages to the lowest cheapest plan with only 15 pages. Maybe they plan to include a page with sponsored coupons in the printout?
What, “decent”? They’re just jumping on the AI bandwagon.
HP is doing a lot of advertisement lately, the boycott must show first fruits. Fuck HP.