Workers at NASA Told to ‘Drop Everything’ to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites
(www.404media.co)
from schizoidman@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2025 16:02
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from schizoidman@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2025 16:02
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cross-posted from: ponder.cat/post/1517787
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This is definitely the most important thing for the country and for human space exploration as a whole.
/s
Snowflakes
Conservatives are creating their safe space.
If you have the funds, please support Internet Archives.
With internet archive head quarters being in the US what would happen if the administration went after them? Would people from other countries be able to keep the project going?
Depends on what the cops would do.
That’s unfortunately a very valid point. Iirc the big problem IA has is the sheer amount of disk space required to store everything.
I wish I had the necessary petabytes of storage to at least store an offline copy. I wonder how many disks that would be and how redundant disks you’d need.
Here’s this from 2021. They say they have about 200PB of raw storage across some 20k spinning drives at the time of writing (with more being added constantly, about 25%/yr), and capacities are mixed from 4TB to 16TB, across 750 servers housed on about 75 racks. I have 6x16TB WD red pros that ran me about $355/ea new with tax, and my bill was a smidge over $2100. Assuming you used all 16TB, you’d need about 12,500 16TB disks, which would run you about $4,437,500 without a bulk discount. How much of that is redundancy I’m not sure, but that’s just HDDs, not the hardware to actually run everything between storage enclosures, OS, disks, memory, clustering, etc. They say they say a single copy with 16TB drives would be about 15 racks., but how that breaks down I’m not sure.
I once made this calculation for a database of 700Tb, even that blew my mind 🤣
We need to distribute all that data, for the sake of history in the future. Data hoarding and torrenting is a service to humanity.
Not just data but in important scientific research too. The republicans want to drive the US back to the stone age, because that’s when they were last relevant.
😇 in my mind, I included those datasets in data
But sure! I agree! We need free and open science, worldwide
People need to understand the art of scientific thinking
Just did yesterday after putting it off for some months
I am sure all of them have the skills set and accounts to spend all day for this...
Headline is hyperbolic
it has the GitHub change log in the article, so yes they did have the skill set and accounts, made the changes and posted the receipts
(?!?!?!?)
Some tech workers*
Keep your head buried
My content speaks for itself lol
This is a bad headline
404 generally does better
You should try doing better
literally one hour ago you used the same grammatical synecdoche of inferring a subset of the group by referring to the group noun demonym:
thebrainbin.org/m/reddit@lemmy.world/t/…/4749901
I am a shit poster, sir
Not a Journalist
Seen you about, you’ve got some good takes, some bad takes, and some absolutely mindbogglingly daft takes.
From what I’ve seen, you are, in fact, a Shit Poster. And while I’ve not scrolled through your entire history, I’m fairly confident that you never claimed you weren’t a hypocrite.
Fair play.
It ain't much, but it is honest work.
✊ the struggle is real fam
Talk about hidden figures…
I caught the irony of that too and it hurts.
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🌎🧑🚀🔫🤠 always was
I thought those fucking cretins were supposed to be reducing government waste. How is forcing agencies to paint over murals with positive vibes and update their website to remove magic words a good use of their time and money?
because it’s not and never was about that and by the time everyone else realises it will be too late to stop it without great effort
You are pissed at another kid, so you find a dog turd near the playground and you throw it his way.
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Because it gives SpaceX an edge over NASA if you delegate menial tasks to PhD level people.
The best way to understand DOGE is to be aware of what it really means: Department of Government Enshitification. The entire point of it is to generally degrade the quality of government.
lmao it’s already too late
What happened to indigenous people and women? I swear I saw one just an hour ago so it seems like they still exist. Maybe not?
That was a cat. You saw a cat an hour ago. Indigenous people and women have never existed. It’s been straight white men since Adam and Steve. Wait…
“No homo” – Steve
The turnaround is giving me whiplash.
There’s no begrudging following of the rules, it’s wholeheartedly embracing the new regime.
When it is easy everyone thinks they are Oskar Schindler but when it is hard most people are Hugo Boss.
Sun-Tzu actually described how this works with soldiers, and how do you work with such gentle material. I’d say his book’s parts on psychology are about making a Hugo Boss from a wannabe Oskar Schindler, but if one applies his advice to oneself, one can put different goals.
I also like Marcus Aurelius.
Boomers are natural bootlickers, no conviction... She says what gets her a head.
Also shouldnt she be in a fema camp instead of leeching on federal budget?
Dude, they are insulting people and blaming boomers for everything is just keeping us divided. You want to start throwing ageism into this look at the ages of the tech bros of elon musk doge raiders. All like 19 -26
Look at the average ages of jan 6 Matt gaetz, Alex jones.
The vast majority of everyone is suffering.
It’s us poors together that we need not letting them keep us divided
Fair points but boomers did provide political cover for a lot of this shot like the wars and ACA
But are all to blame now. Nobody knows what a proper opposition is
The quote from the email isn’t her words. They were given to her (and all agency heads) to send out to their workforce to implement the EO. It should not be taken as “embracing the new regime”.
So… “she’s just following orders”?
If it quacks like a duck and steps like a goose…
They need to give all interviews in with an Inspector Clouseau accent to let us know they are under duress like the US pilot who was put on TV during the first gulf war.
She sent the email. They’re her words now.
I was told to change gender to sex on the apps I develop. I’m pushing to have it removed all together because it’s a field that has no relevance and the order is fucking dumb. My niece is trans saying they don’t exist doesn’t make them not exist.
DEI is largely about raising the profiles of minority workers in roles and positions that were both vital to mission success and underpaid/underappreciate-for-promotion relative to the whiter career roles.
Petro’s following in the grand tradition of Boomer senior leaders by pulling the ladder up behind her now that she’s at the top.
You beat me by a minute with that thought! 😆
This is just another version of pulling the ladder up behind them, no?
Okay, okay, yeah is it bad? Yeah it’s bad but listen up libs - Remember when Harris was being reported as focusing on the middle class during her four month campaign? Huh? Yeah. That’s why this is happening. And we were right to not fight against this fascist horror with the one thing that would have mattered, our vote. She should have paid more attention to people who have it bad.
Any post that starts with “listen up libs” immediately makes me ignore the rest of its contents. Not interested in your MAGA and/or tankie bullshit.
obviously you are a old and don’t understand that liberals are the absolute worst thing in the world next to conservatives. Us kids are down with the leftism now and any Democratic person is a horrible traitor to society which is why we let trump win. You need to read the manga versions of Das Kapital to really get it.
Bro. Do you not know what the words “not interested” mean? I wasn’t going to read your first wall of text, and I’m surely not going to read that second one. I can’t handle the ignorance from bigots and bootlickers.
Read it so you don’t have to: It’s a troll.
Block and move on.
I use voyager, so it’s more fun to tag em and watch their antics. Always a good laugh when there’s multiple Red tags frothing at eachother.
Poe’s Law
Yeah. Skimming is standard. I appreciate the effort though!
And we need to read this to really get you.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulag_Archipelago
Oh you.
Since Herr Trumpf got elected for his second term, the line between MAGA and Tankie has been getting preeeeeetty thin. Seen a lot of “masks off” comments from the folk at .ml…
The middle class also has it bad. A worker is anyone who isnt an owner
One would think. And yet she was pilloried for focusing on the economics of the middle class.
Electoralism is bullshit to begin with. Trump shouldn’t have been able to do what he’s doing at all. An actual developed society shouldn’t be susceptible to fascist takeover, because fascists should be unacceptable in government. And the president shouldn’t be able to do anything they want with nothing but good faith holding them back. The American government fundamentally failed a long time ago. If Harris had won it wouldn’t have been Trump, but she was far from a progressive and would not have changed the government in an attempt to preserve it against future fascist uprising.
Not to mention her commitment to Israel. Not to mention she was part of the Biden administration, and had a direct involvement in the American government’s support for the Palestinian genocide.
Yes, it would’ve been better in many ways if she had won. But the choice never should’ve been between a neoliberal conservative and a fascist. America was broken under Biden, too. Not the way it is, nor the way it will be as Trump’s kingdom rises. But it’s far more nuanced than just “if she had won everything would be swell”. And it’s weird to point out non-voters as the problem, instead of like. The past 5 decades of American politics. The many many many people who did nothing to prevent this from happening over 50 years. The democratic party itself failed to meaningfully respond to his first presidency.
Yes if the people who had stayed home had instead voted, and voted for Harris specifically, she would be president and the outcome would be better for everyone. Undoubtedly. Like Weimar Germany though the government was already fundamentally broken and susceptible to the rise of fascism. To simply and immediately put blame on the voters ignores the actual reasons that situation even came about to begin with.
Cracking on with the important shit, I see.
At least make sure to update all graphics to webp while executing hate based updates.
Oh, just scrubbing MENTIONS of them. Whew!
…for now.
Robert’); DROP TABLE Trans People;–
good ol’ Bobby Tables
Sounds like a paid day off
Imagine dreaming to fly to space only to be denied having it because you also cared about the rights of indigenous people.
They’re getting ready to colonize
GazaKlandathu. They can’t be caring about the indigenous life. /sDo you want to know more?
I’m doing my part!
Imagine dreaming to fly to space only to be denied having it because you’re not indigenous and they haven’t met their arbitrary quota of indigenous people.
Imagine beeing this fragile.
I’ll spell it out for you honey. As long as we don’t offer the same privileges white people have to all people, we need a qutoa to level the playing field.
I know that doesn’t fit your ideology. Doesn’t change how it’s true tough.
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What advantages does NASA give to white people that it would have to compensate for?
*wave hands*
As a white middle aged man my privilege is everywhere. The problem is the people that don’t see it everywhere. The world is run by my peers to this day and yet you have some of my spineless peers screaming bloody murder because black people should be offered the same odds getting a job if they’re qualified.
I’m glad you asked. Racial discrimination when hiring is a problem and can be observed easily.
For example this meta study, that looked at many experimental studies in 6 different western counties, shows how racial discrimination is a problem when hiring. This has been demonstrated in experimental research by sending two resumes to different workplaces. They show the same level of qualification, but one of them is from a white on one from a person that is not. You do this a lot, like 200 times with 200 employers and see how often both candidates are invited.
And consistently you can see that white people are invites, while racial divergent people are not.
From the meta study this reads like this:
Cool study. What evidence is there that NASA has an unfair hiring practice they need to adjust for?
The study is evidence that there is a systemic disadvantage for non whites when hiring.
Why should this not be the case at NASA? What makes NASA so special that findings, that showed true on a systemic level across six countries don’t apply to it?
If you are interested, NASA did an audit on their progress on including DEIA in 2023.
oig.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/…/IG-23-011.pdf
Sounds like they were already only hiring qualified people.
Forcing DEI where there was no problem causes a problem.
So you don’t see the discrimination against non white people as a problem then?
I’m saying those statistics do not say that NASA discriminates against non-whites. They could, but theres no proof of it. Applying a blanket rule to all business whether they are discriminating or not is over-reaching.
Excuse me? The Audit made to look how much discrimination NASA is doing that states that there had been no progress in lessening (hiring) discrimination in a decade (!) doesn’t show discrimination?
I already have shown proof of systemic discrimination in the hiring process against non whites. Of course a blanked rule is sensible to help mitigate this.
What is the worst that can happen? A company that didn’t discriminate in the first place won’t be affected such a rule besides some paperwork maybe. But since most do (see the study above) it sure would help.
federalnewsnetwork.com/…/case-alleging-racial-dis…
Here’s an example of NASA discriminating, and the legal process to rectify it. Thats appropriate. Showing some arbitrary numbers and saying they aren’t high enough is nonsense.
A company that doesnt discriminate might need to hire people it doesnt want to just to fill a quota. Thats wasteful, and disrespectful to the people hired.
If they weren’t discriminating they wouldn’t have to fill the quota.
I know about the case, but it is not decided and started on 2011. It not nothing, but it’s easy to dismiss on that base, so I didn’t bring it up.
How do you arrive at the conclusion those numbers have been set arbitrary? I am repeating myself, but the absolutely not arbitrary number here is that NASA has as many non white people then 10 ysads before. So even with DEI Programms they haven’t been able to imply more non whites. In ten 10 years. That’s not arbitrary, it’s quite clear effidence of how a the people making bring decisions are biased towards white employees.
The arbitrary numbers are that NASA should have “more minorities than 10 years ago”. Why 10 years ago? Why more then they had then? Isn’t NASA famous for working on DEI for more than 50 years, before it was even called DEI?
If they had or have unfair hiring practices, show me an example. Surely theres someone who was the most qualified but passed over for being a minority.
I’m not against DEI, just not every company is the same. Also I dont see much DEI for jobs where white people are the minority. I got fired from a job in my teens because the supervisor thought I was a lazy white person who " couldn’t even do the jobs our women do", and 90% of the workers were from Mexico. Wheres my DEI initiative?
Maybe I love hard labour and it sucks I can’t get a job in it because everyone thinks I’ll be lazy and demand extra benefits.
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Totally normal.
Why doesn’t Trump like MSI laptops? I think they’re great for gaming in space
Their cowardice is palpable. If only NASA could run experiments so that we could understand how the concept of fear-based self preservation eliminates any semblance of courage when faced with even the smallest threat to their ill-defined paradigm of manhood.
In a parallel universe where we have a functioning federal government, I’d imagine something like this would be worthy of a grant or two.
You’re significantly underestimating how many Chud engineers NASA employs. The agency that was founded by Nazis refugees has always had a shit history on race politics, cinema hagiographies produced decades later notwithstanding.
One of the biggest jokes of the US depiction of the Space Race was how many times we got our asses drubbed by Russians with less money, manpower, and educational resources, simply because our administration was so cartoonishly incompetent. We have an obscenely wealthy federal government that can afford to fuck up on the scale of trillions of dollars and still come out ahead.
Isn’t there an entire movie about racism in NASA that’s basically just a feel good story for white people?
Hidden Figures. More or less “The Help” for NASA dweebs.
It concedes that black women were instrumental in developing and executing a successful space race, but gets really cagey around questions like “Why did NASA only have a White Men’s Restroom to begin with?”, “What caused us to omit people like this in films like Apollo 13 or The Right Stuff?”, and “How come the women who pioneered implementation of Fortran at NASA weren’t able to pivot into senior administrative roles, private contracting firms, or academic positions like their male peers?”
ITT: People who doesn’t read the article. These science institutions shouldn’t be used for fucking politics.
I wonder if something from the list published in this article has any relation to science or space. Yeah sure, let’s go with “DEI and other Inclusivity programs are NECESSARY for space survival”. I wonder what’s the objective of NASA.
Lol don’t worry, this Astronaut knows pronouns. /s
You’d think, huh? Daamn, that’s crazy
Bro, if you’re going to be sarcastic, at least try to sound smart. You just need to read the title to see its fucking propaganda from the opposition.
Damn, really? That’s craaaazy.
Yet you still act like a fucking moron, what is your secret?
Do you also read articles and form an opinion of your own?
everything is political. you are advocating that these institutions pretend observer bias doesn’t exist.
Bro DID YOU READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE?
Who do you think made that article?!