from themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 11:29
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/54794811
Recent reports have announced that Crunchyroll, the largest anime streaming service, will be replacing Aegisub with Israeli Software, OOONA, to produce subtitles more efficiently. Anime fans across the world are disappointed with this collaboration due to Israel’s ongoing genocide against Palestinians (via a report by the United Nations Commission of Inquiry).
Crunchyroll is also ignoring the needs of groups who require Closed Captions to understand the scenes better. They are isolating a large chunk of their audience in favor of AI-based subtitling, which defeats the point of a streaming service. Overall, this hasn’t been a great year for Crunchyroll, and this won’t be the end of it.
EDIT: Link was taken down thanks to someone in the comments here’s the archive for the page web.archive.org/…/crunchyroll-faces-cancelation-w…
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Well shit. If this goes through I’ll have to cancel
xcancel.com/sugoilite/status/1973732830334292420?…
Many people noticed that the changes in the subs, they used to translate text in the background for example.
Oh so it has gone through? Fuck. Time to cancel then
Should cancel even if it hadn’t gone through, their ears are in their wallets
Very true
Fansubs have always been superior.
Agreed, It very noticeable how bad the subs are. I remember watching an the terminator anime and the subs were atrocious.
reddit.com/…/netflixs_wellanimated_terminator_zer…?
I’ve been an anime of crunchy roll with those auto ai subs and the main character is called Kun. Holy shit half the time it’s censoring itself because it’s trying to say something racist, but not always…
There are barely any real fansubs left. Most are Crunchyroll, Netflix or Funimation restyled and maybe retimed plus checked if they spent a lot of time on it.
And that’s honestly all that’s needed, the official translations are usually perfectly fine. The elaborate typesetting is what makes the fansubs so good.
I’m an old pirate who remembers, and the thing, the raw ingredient missing in this scenario?
need
If it didn’t exist, if there was no possible way to get a copy of somesuch Gundam episode whatever in english, some dude somewhere would cross the ends of the earth to get it onto the internet. Piracy is motivated entirely by utility and need, it’s why music piracy atrophied into almost nothing until Soulseek arrived and streaming prices increased. Supply met demand, and it will again for fansubs.
If it’s needed, someone will meet the need. We did it in 1998, we’ll do it next year.
Remembers all the fan sub opening/ending Karaoke so I could actually understand songs too. 🥹
Steins Gate fansubs were amazing.
That‘s how Crunchyroll itself started out if I remember correctly. Now look at it, completely unrecognizable. It‘s exemplary for how things have been progressing or rather regressing this century so far.
My daughter got into anime through friends and I got some street creds by talking about how things used to be. Buying laserdiscs in Japan, subbing them and showing them at conventions. I subbed two episodes of some show I don’t remember. Or shipping VHS tapes across continents. My daughter doesn’t care, of course. But her friends were impressed. I fear that that was my last hurrah, though. I got nothing else.
Don’t forget that Crunchyroll is also owned by Sony, who have basically picked up a monopoly on anime streaming services by buying out all of the competition. Aniplex, Funimation, Crunchyroll, Kadokawa, all under the Sony umbrella.
And still can’t offer the full catalog in my country
I hate that some seasons shows are on Netflix, but the rest are only on CR
The pirate life is the only life for me.
And it’s been working for decades, always getting laughed at by the newest hype but yet again persisting.
Also it turns out companies do it and it wouldn’t work otherwise (see ai training)
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If you do not want to support then stop consuming which can not do because everything needed or wanted is all controlled/produced by the same owner class and switching companies means switching between different companies all owned by the same owner class just like news and newspapers
Same scam that is done on elections to give the illusion of choice but the puppet master never changes face just the puppets
No other companies to switch to for baby formula, diapers, bottled or otherwise water, foods by any brand all same owner at the beginning of the chains, all media is all owned at the very top by the same owner class, movies including super hero ones all owned by that same entity, vehicles that move us and products around all owned by the same people even if the countries are different and the names changed at the very very top are the same owner class
Got us plain and simple
Fuck off with that ‘both sides the same’ bullshit. We’ve very conclusively proven that no, one side is much fucking worse.
one side may be worse but the less evil side is still working with the more evil side just like how the DNC went
Uh huh…
Evil Joe Biden controls the supreme court, amirite?
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I love user tags and vote tracking for this exact reason. It makes spotting these repeat posters SO much easier: <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/3d2c875a-8813-4d22-95a6-63e47e332c18.webp">
Is that an app? I’ve been hoping someone makes a desktop client that improves the lemmy experience like the reddit ones used to do
Yeah, it’s Voyager. You can long-press on a username to add a user tag. And if you come across the same account later, editing the tag will give you a button to jump to the comment you originally used to tag them.
It also automatically tracks votes, so that
[-6]is my running vote total for this user. So I tend to downvote them pretty often compared to upvotes. It makes spotting trolls/idiots a lot easier.Lastly, (though it isn’t marked here) it will add a baby emoji to any accounts that are new. That one is nice because you often find brand new accounts posting really divisive shit, and they’re obvious troll/astroturf accounts once you realize they’re freshly made.
Yeah I’m still bouncing between apps bc none of them have all of what I want (mostly to do with swipe gestures plus picture and video functionality–basically trying to replace sync but nothing lives up to it). But at least the new user icon shows up on desktop these days.
They’re both working together to give the illusion of choice.
There is no ‘both’ sides when they’re all on the team of enriching the ruling class as effectively as possible.
Sub ran out midway last month.
Kodi + Premiumize.me + Otaku for the win. 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Crunchyroll doesn't even have all of the anime, they neglect a few classic ones. Pricks.
Doesn’t even have all the seasons of some animes they have. It’s ridiculous copyright rules in different countries. It sucks.
Oh, didn’t realize this. Had a rolling sub which I never bothered to cancel as I very occasionally watch with mates, but have now cancelled it.
I cancelled it because I forgot I had it a few days ago. This is merely coincidence to me but nice coincidence.
Only piracy will keep you from being complicit.
fan subs are best
To the extent they exist
Kind of miss how much effort went into fan subs, with notes explaining things that didn’t exactly translate without context…
^ this
Not just the notes, but I feel like they put more effort into making sure the text doesn’t blend with what is on screen. Instances on Netflix of some shows where there will be white text with a white background, and the text has no drop shadow or black border.
Oh man, I remember seeing things go from burned in subs to sub tracks with all kinds of nice functional markup and managed font color schemes and such to… Slapping white text with no border/shadow in the bottom middle of the video unconditionally without formatting…
Well the advantage of having the subtitles be a text overlay over the video is that the subtitles can be separated from the video; like, you can switch them off and on and change languages (which i sometimes do as i speak multiple languages and am interested in how they translated it) without having to store multiple GB-sized video files - one for each language - for the same episode.
What are you talking about? You can do text styling even with toggleable subs. It’s why fansubbers started using .ass/ssa for subtitles back in 2005. No one sane has burned subs into the videos for more than 20 years at this point.
I can’t imagine an anime like detective conan or school rumble without translator notes. They would be unwatchable
“keikaku means plan”
I will forever recognize the Baar Sophia font from the fansubs of Naruto which got me into anime in the first place
<3 graphic designers unite
Just canceled. Thanks.
I’m doing my part!
My renewal was literally tomorrow too. As these streaming services get worse, I keep on cancelling. Been two years for Prime (literally smashed cancel the day ads were announced) and all i’ve got left at this point is netflix and spotify.
Netflix pricing almost has me there.
Netflix has been enshityfying and on the capitalist death spiral for YEARS, cancel that shit and spend your money on a VPN and some hard drives…
I’ve been paying for a VPN for over a decade and I am up to about 20TB of used disks. Make of that what you will.
Your setup isn’t modern enough and you still find convenience in paying for Netflix?
I don’t know what else to make of it…
Not far off. Most of what i’ve setup originates from a plex lifetime sub. Maintenance is completely trivial.
Every time I hear about the next thing I think about modernizing which then requires standing up something new. New shit requires a new virtual host and completely new setups of many things. Then training my wife and others on how to utilize the new tech, and then praying it doesn’t just break tomorrow from The Establishment in some way.
Plex is one of the very few solutions that works with minimal sideloading and fuckery. My instructions for someone to start using it are “download the app, check your email for an account link, and enjoy.” I would not recommend any newcomers to go with Plex though, because it’s definitely not a modern solution.
I’ve tried jellyfin, I put substantial time into trying to get it to work but it had substantial issues with subtitles which are mandatory for us unfortunately. I figure any new solution is going to also have substantial challenges in some way as there is no standardized or simple deployment of absolutely anything.
Yeah, I have Jellyfin running alongside Plex, (luckily, they happily run side-by-side with the same library), but I consistently find myself using Plex instead. I want to like Jellyfin. I want it to succeed. And Jellyfin is like 80% of the way there… But that remaining 20% is a real sticking point, and I almost always end up falling back to Plex after trying (and getting frustrated with) Jellyfin.
It’s an unpopular opinion on Lemmy because of the FOSS mentality, but Jellyfin simply isn’t mature enough to fully replace Plex in many peoples’ setups. Especially when you consider the whole “getting friends and family to convert” side of things, where Plex handily beats Jellyfin in regards to account and app setup; I can walk my mother-in-law through setting up Plex, but Jellyfin adds a whole new level to the equation when she would need to sideload the app onto her TV.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
I built out bluefin as a panacea to issues I had with subtitles on a set of media on my plex server and it couldn’t even give me subtitles.
I hear a lot of rave reviews for Kodi, but that’s serverless so now I need to open up storage or setup a vpn server and isolate a vlan… and how in the everliving fuck am I going to explain configuring this? Oh, and that needs sideloading too and if I go with a vlan now they need to figure out how to connect their device to a VPN. That’s a nightmare.
Sure, I can setup Kodi at home on my TV device and leave plex as is but i’m no closer to a server based transcoding solution. That sucks.
I use plex also because I have a lifetime sub. Totally agree.
Switch from VMS to docker. Use NAS to keep the media, and store your compose stacks somewhere backed up, then all you need is one host with docker/podman and a repeatable configuration driven deployment. Start adding apps with compose files, no new host setups, no significant resource needs.
Netflix makes dope original productions in my experience; I’ve watched many of their shows and enjoyed them.
It’s not wrong to give money to studios that produce good content. What’s important IMO is that the money really goes to the studios, and not to some big banks trying to leech off it.
except they cancel after 2 seasons, because they dont want to pay anymore. Plus i saw the quality in some of the shows in the season, where thier costumes, or props quality is very showing.
latimes.com/…/spotifys-ceo-owns-an-ai-weapons-com…
I’d cancel it in a heartbeat but my wife would murder me.
I was recently turned on to Stremio + Torrentio and it’s very good. I’m considering making a Pi5 device dedicated to it.
I have an old Pi floating around that I should probably look at using for stuff like this.
Are they going to be around once Google removes sideloading from unauthorized devs?
You could try moving to Tidal or Qobuz, they treat their artists better and there are tools to transfer playlists
Buying music on Bandcamp and similar has been good for me. When I got laid off I kept all the music I owned and didn’t have to pay anymore. All these subscription services suck.
I’m never, ever buying digital licenses to video or audio content. My limit is games because avoiding it is kind of impossible.
Too many platforms close down. I’ve lost licenses from the Impulse acquisition and subsequent shutdown, plus one or two others. Any day these guys can just put up a 30 day notice and rip everything out of your library. Usually this happens after an acquisition… looks like bandcamp was sold in 2023 and the buyers shitcanned half the staff too.
Disks are cheap and piracy works until they enforce digital IDs for all connectivity on the internet. At that point we’d be back to swapping thumb drives.
I only buy drm free music and then back it up somewhere myself. Bandcamp at least is drm free, but who knows if they’ll turn to shit after being bought and sold.
Get a divorce
Honest question, did you try self-hosted music?
Few weeks ago I thought this was a joke but… there is a TON of stuff out there already.
From the "rough"
to having mobile apps
to minimalist
to federated
to handling discovery
… there is just so much out there!
Edit: since I wrote this message (15min ago) I setup LMS thanks to podman and shared it via
ngrokand my wife can listen to my music on her phone instantly.So… yeah it’s that quick and convenient.
Is it perfect, definitely not, but it’s also very quick to get started and to reconsider.
Spent another 5min to
scpthe container and~/Musicon my RPi5, which I keep on 24/7, has a 512Go microSD and tailscale… and I guess that’s it, I have my own music server. I don’t have discovery on though but still, already useful!Another update on that front, I added on my RPi5 :
yt-dlpwhich I use with its-xaudio only option on RSS feeds from DJscrontabto get updatesLMSfor hourly database scantonein order to updatetagson files and try to organize my~/MusicdirectorySo it’s still nowhere near as good as the music streaming service I used so far BUT it’s getting there!
Have this odd bug where CC is enabled at first on every episode and man, it’s bad. Luckily subs for JP dubs are somewhat decent but I feel bad for anyone who needs closed captioning.
CC is a separate setting from the subtitles. There is a place to turn it off but it’s so unintuitive I can never remember it. All it really is, though is dub dialog. There was no attempt at proper closed captioning.
Yeah I turn the setting off and next time I launch the app, it’s tuned right back on. Works fine on my PC, just not my XB1.
And the CCs don’t even get the dub dialog right. Names are beyond mangled it looks like they’re trying to run it through a realtime recognition system to do auto captions. It’d be worlds better if they just uploaded the ADR script at that point.
What I meant is there is a separate overall setting to turn it off. I think it is an app specific setting. If you just turn them off in the settings for the show, it will only affect that session.
Also it’s sad to hear they’ve gotten worse. They were bad enough before when they were dub dialog only.
Yup! That’s the setting I’m referring to. The global one resets every time on me. I have to go into the show and turn it off at the start of every episode. It’s a pain in the ass.
What do you expect, they started as a pirate platform.
I didn’t realize they had ever gone legit.
Ha fuck… that was my last personal sub… any alternative beside the high seas? I’m seasick…
The end goal was always to deprive us of alternatives
There’s always torrents but it was very convenient to just go to crunchy and start something… torrenting and putting it in plex and all… it’s just less convenient
Usenet is great also downloads very quickly. Just automate the whole process.
I was doing usenet more than 10yrs ago… not that straightforward, needs a subscription anyway… and the whole NAS + plex or something similar is still needed. I get the idea but there’s a point in life where 10€ per month for the ease of use is very appealing.
I pay around 2 to 3 dollars a month, I bought lifetime index subscriptions.
Look into setting up an -arr stack. Overseer with radar/sonaar plus your torrent client of choice and a VPN. The setup takes a weekend at most and the final product is honestly easier to use then navigating shitty streaming services now. It actually is more convenient after just a little bit of setup.
They took our comments and reviews, now they’re ruining subtitles, are delayed, etc. The arr stack is starting to be just as convenient if not more.
Lord Gaben said it best, piracy is a service problem, not a pricing problem (the people who couldn’t afford it weren’t going to buy it anyway).
You’re right about comments and reviews… I miss some of that. You’re also right quoting the old Gaben. But still… it seems we can’t keep any nice things for long :-/
Has he actually changed his stance on piracy? I hadn’t see anything to indicate that but maybe I’m mistaken.
Honestly, piracy is easier than it ever has been. You can automate torrents or usenet downloads with the *arr suite. There’s a bit of a learning curve to get it set up… But once it’s running, it’s basically just “add show to your watchlist” and ~15 minutes later it shows up on your media list with full metadata, subtitles, etc ready to go.
Plenty of people will suggest stremio, which is… Contentious. It works for streaming by downloading a torrent to cache. After you watch it, stremio automatically deletes the cache. So in day to day operation, it uses very little hard drive space and primarily relies on your internet speed and properly seeded torrents. But that latter part is the problem… Since it deletes the cache, it isn’t actually seeding anything in return. If everyone used stremio, nobody would actually be able to use it, because none of the torrents would be seeded. It’s a sort of mass prisoner’s dilemma.
Technically, you can set stremio to keep a rolling cache of {x} size, and it will hold onto the torrents until you start to download something new and it needs that space. But very few people will expect to hit a 1.0 ratio, even with a decently sized cache.
The whole point is not to do any setup and maintenance just to watch anime… I already have a job where I have to do that and I was hoping that it would pay for the convenience. My passion is watching anime, not setup downloading pipeline for them.
The point of the setup is you only need to do it once, you don’t set up everything every time you want to download something…
Got any guides for that stuff? Sounds pretty neat
Google stremio + realdebrid, it’s all spelled out step by step on many guides, you basically download the app (on pc, android, tvs) add community repos, add torrentio, click customize, paste your real debrid api key and you’re done. Past that you can pick extensions like marvels or other torrent addons to add categories and other sources.
Real debrid you pay like 6$ a month for, it automatically dloads the torrent when you click it or grabs from its cache (almost always cached/downloaded by others)Makes stremio run as fast/smooth as netflix/hulu/etc.
Stremio auto tracks what is watched, keeps history/playback time accurately. It’s basically how kodi addons used to be as it’s own smoother app.
Never heard of stremio, sounds like it plays the role of a media server, in which case it doesn’t have to be streamio? Plex or Jellyfin could work too
Stremio is the “downloader” and the “streamer”, so it’s both. Plex and Jellyfin require you to download beforehand.
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Then you pay for it? Plain and simple. You pay for that convenience.
I am paying for it… it becomes tricky when the disagreement isn’t on price but on replacing fellow human with AI from a country with genocidal tendencies. That’s where I draw my line I guess.
There are plain old anime piracy sites, for both downloading and streaming, if you don't want the headache.
Lol I can just add it to my phone’s torrent client when I have a plan to watch something, then later begin download when I have wifi (or if you have unlimited high speed data, that also works… sort of…), usually like before bed when the phone is plugged in, then wake up and its done downloading.
You can pre-download the next thing you plan to watch before you finish your current thing. Same for TV Shows and movies.
If you don’t use your phone for work, you can also just leave it charging and use their wifi (with VPN obviously) to torrent then come come and have it ready to watch, usually unless it has low seeders.
Watch using VLC.
(Afaik, there’s no torrent client on iOS, so this is Android only… we’ll see what happens with Android torrent clients after 2027… it works for now)
(That’s the simplist thing to do. You can also remote into a computer,but that’s a bit more complicated.)
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It is easier to watch anime for free than it is to pay for it.
No one reccomends stremio without real debrid, makes it instant like netflix
HiDive. Until they get the fuckaround bug.
Hidive is probably the last good one, unless something changed in recent times.
All the streaming services are unethical now, both in pricing and operation. Netflix is maybe the least bad, but I can’t justify the cost for that, either.
Stremio + Torrentio is the way to go.
What happens next is like what happened in the 2000s. People will turn to piracy as legitimate content is no longer feasible, affordable, or ethical. Then the corporate oligarchs will crack down violently to make examples of the people they’ve given no other choice or recourse.
It’s time to eat the rich.
I don’t know, I find I also have the option to not consume media that I can’t pay for or justify ethically. For instance, the only streaming service we have a subscription for is The Criterion Channel.
True. But many people can justify it ethically.
Good for you, but Oovid opened my eyes to how different our living conditions are.
Some people may have may many alternatives, some few and some none
Even if you make good money, it is still ethically questionable to support predatory practices and financially reward the objectively evil. Piracy is ethically neutral at worst and can easily be interpreted as a net positive, at least where it comes to most media. I deliberately choose to support some obscure stuff with my dollar because I want its creators to succeed and my conscience is clean.
I’m looking for an ethical anime streaming service rn, and i’d be willing to pay for it (like, $10/month). Any options at all?
Like, “ethical” means that the money is used to keep the studio running that is producing the anime; not that the money goes to some big banks to profit off anime.
yeah, that just doesn’t exist anymore
Netflix charges me, a single guy, for 4 simultaneous streams if I want 4k. So I shared with my parents.
Then they had the audacity to stop people from password sharing or to charge even more if you want to share. I set up an automatic email forward so my parents get every sign in related email.
Torrentio has started blocking VPNs.
Netflix is training AI on the work of the artists in the animation department. They’re absolutely not the least bad, they’re all equally terrible.
Well then, fund an alternative.
I much prefer owned media over subscriptions, but this is perhaps one area where they’re actually good. A bad business decision that drives away customers can have a pretty immediate and visible impact on revenue. It’s not “hey nobody bought our latest release, blame racism/sexism/wokeness” or whatever other whipping-boy they choose to bury their heads in the sand with, it’s “we did a thing and within days to a month people were leaving us.”
In many cases, this drives them to actually pay attention to customer reactions. We’ve seen the same with Disney in regards to Kimmel and I wouldn’t be surprised to see recent changes to Gamepass have a similar impact. I hate to say it, but subscriptions like this really do allow customers to vote with their wallets.
Which is also why many are probably going to try to lock more customers in to longer terms, add gimmicks, and generally make it harder to unsubscribe. Kinda like phone companies. We’ll likely end up with a “streaming sign-up/connection fee” and offers like “**free Frozen tablet with a two year Disney+ subscription”
** regular price $599, applied as a discount from your regular bill over 24mo
These mutherfuckers forgot where they came from! Time to remind them
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They’ve been on borrowed time since Sony bought them. Honestly I’m amazed they’ve lasted this long.
Oh they do remember. They fondly remember those early years piggybacking on strangers goodwill before laughing all the way to the bank.
I would never subscribe to Crunchyroll, because they use DRM.
why not just pirate shit without a noble cause for once? You know - the old fashioned way
what are the good sources nowadays…been out of the game for awhile and it’s to trust any sites promoted on any mainstreamish social networks.
like freemediaheckyeah, old reddit hub…is that still good?
ime every pirate source had 50/50 shot of turning into some virus/scam honeypot shortly after reaching high enough popularity
Fmhy ✅
no idea, man. I’m just a poser)
I just bookmark the piracy megathread/wiki thingy, lemmy/reddit (backup). For streaming, I would probably recommend hydra, it’s really all the same but that site has “auto-next” which I prefer. There was one site I used to enjoy that was just better than any streaming platform I’ve paid for, skip intro, skip credits (would even detect after credit scenes), subtitles in all languages and audio tracks even commentary, quick responsive high quality loading of any media your mind can remember. They went after it hard and I haven’t seen a proper iteration since (every clone slowly lost features as they were whack-a-moling).
For downloading, they’re really all crappy (several link hoops to jump through) and hit or miss (for quality and selection you can’t beat the ease of a torrent unfortunately). You can find what you want eventually but the difference in hassle is just crazy.
i used to stream pirated some shows and a movie last decade, then they took down all those sites, i dont download.
nyaa. Just look for a currently active Nyaa torrent site for anime. There’s several.
I pretty much just use 1337x.
fmhy.lol Free Media Heck Yea has loads of free content across tons of topics listed.
You can get the Evangellion dub off of internet archive, found that out a couple of days ago cause bored.
I mean, I basically just download anything that’s not an executable. So if its a video, audio, pdf, epub, etc… I don’t worry about it. Its very rare for an updated system to get infected from a random .mkv.
I just use (fmhy.net/torrenting) one of the torrenting aggregators because its the most comprehensive search, I found an anime that I couldn’t find anywhere else because there are dead torrents with no seeders everywhere else I looked.
Impossible.
Piracy is always noble.
quiet.
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Perfection
Fuckin wish I pirated this turd.
i liked it.
Old Fashioned Pirates were poor people treated like shit by their society lashing out at the system of oppression.
give it a couple of years and it would match just right
Funnily enough, i was considering just today whether i should re-open my old Crunchyroll account. But i guess i won’t do it now after all. IIRC there’s been a streak of bad press about crunchyroll; like, this today isn’t the only issue.
I would very much like a streaming service that makes it transparent what it actually spends its income on.
Like - a streaming service where i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the studios/artists that actually produce the anime? I would take that.
But right now i’m worried that i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the shareholders of the streaming provider as “profit” while the studio gets almost nothing.
Yeah… sweet summer child you might not want to read Chokepoint Capitalism. It’s closer to 99% for BigContent lawyers and right holders and less than 1% for actual creators.
Lol, I’m sure it’s a good book and Cory Doctorow is well renowned, but I can’t help but think: “Defeat Chokepoint Capitalism by buying our book right now!”
And ironically enough even though most book by Doctorow might be DRM-free, maybe this one is, I can’t remember.
If you want I give you a free TL;DR: it’s not just monopolies, it’s also monopsies. When we feel trapped by buying with Amazon we often forget that authors often have the same feeling. So the “chokepoint” is not 1-sided but 2-sided.
Cory Doctorow’s works are almost always free to download, just a physical copy costs money.
Get thee to The Pirate Bay and send your direct donations on the side.
where would i send them to?
Bro why is everything from israel now bad??
Israeli companies have fuck all to do with the government’s decisions
By definition of their country they’re supporting their government, through taxes if nothing else.
I get that, but it’s not like it’s optional to pay taxes.
The point is more: Crunchyroll chooses to pay the sub company (Israeli based) to provide them with a service. The company pays taxes to the Israeli government. So the flow of money becomes:
Subscriber pays Crunchyroll
Crunchyroll pays sub company
Sub company pays taxes to Israeli government
If I don’t want my dollars to go towards the Israeli government even in a small scale, I don’t pay Crunchyroll.
As one person, it isn’t much, but multiply that by a million subs and now you’re sending a message
It’s not like many of these businesses have much of a choice…
Israel is one of the most expensive places in the world to do business.
They have more than enough choice to move somewhere without the local hostilities and human rights abuses.
They choose not to because of religion.
What a weird thing to say when we are watching a genocide live feed every day fucking think bro lol
Until their government stops murdering people, Israel needs to be pressured as a whole. Their citizens need to be fed up with it and put a stop to their government, and boycotting them helps.
I’m not 100% on board with @sulgoth@lemmy.world because it gives off some “but you participate in society, interesting” vibes. However, as an American I am all for people from the rest of the world boycotting our products (and this time not because of the health implications!). When Canadians were promoting non-american alternatives I agreed with them so I think we can say fuck companies and still stand with the actual individual people who want peace and everyone to prosper respectfully.
israeli companies cant exist without the approval of the israeli government, so by extension they are supporting them through taxes, and propaganda(good pr). its the same with the CCP, although its more extreme, chinese companies cant exist with the explicit approval of PROC government. Unless its a israeli company thats based in the EU with no ties to Israel, than thats different. theres a reason why canadians dont want to go places even like california, they know its supports trump through taxes.
they are tied to israeli govt as the gov is tied to them, you want to open a business in israel, you would need to get approval from said state.
Greed kills
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The whole “calling out Israel for genocide means you’re antisemitic” line is so worn out and honestly just exhausting. Israel has spent like 4+ decades trying desperately to associate criticism of israel with antisemitism.
I’ve been boycotting Crunchyroll for years, and I’m not stopping anytime soon.
“Piracy is a human right, collective ownership of the seas, comrades!” — Erik L. Midtsveen
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Maybe instead of everyone calling it isreal and palestine, they should say the isreali government and innocent people.
They should say Netanyahu is committing genocide.
Saying israel instead of directly naming the culprits is sort of like when people say antifa. In the case of antifa it makes bad actors able to demonise the word and make it seem like a bad thing, so it can be used to twist peoples minds and make them think its a bad thing.
In the case of this genocide, it dehumanises the people committing the atrocities and diverts blame to the word instead of the people. Which has the effect of people like Netanyahu being able to reassociate the word with the israeli people and the jews.
So it absolutely isnt antisemitic to say israel is committing genocide, but it is unhelpful to divert the blame from the real asshats in charge.
Yes, Netanyahu!
Genocide is wildly popular in Israel right now
“Dubbed the “Sderot cinema” by Israelis online, watching Israel’s bombardment has become a popular pastime; people take turns looking through tower viewers. Some bring popcorn and snacks, and some snap selfies as the thud of airstrikes echo in the distance.
“When I look at Gaza from here and see buildings still standing, it makes me upset. … I want Israel to continue until it’s all flattened,” Rafael Hemo, an onlooker told CNN.”
Edit fixed link: www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/…/ar-AA1NSQWj
Ok, but fascism is wildly popular in the USA right now. Would you make the same argument there?
Or, like me, are you more inclined towards believing that more likely a few terrible people in power have sway with a vast number of easily led racists and that mischaracterises the whole country?
I mean… yeah? It’s not really much of a mischaracterization if it’s true. At one point you have to accept that the we’re the baddies as a US citizen.
What do you think should be done to you?
Yes, we’re a fascist country now.
But more to the point, brining up a country that was founded on Genocide of Native Americans to argue that we shouldn’t speak ill of a country founded on Genocide of Palestinians is wild.
This describes both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. Again, weird take unless you’re pushing for us to drop the Nazi label from 1933-1945 Germany.
Are you a fascist?
No, I’m a Leftist.
Ok, so, you are not a fascist country, you are a country run by fascists with fascists in it. But this doesn’t represent the values of the entire population. Especially when trump rigged the election (by his own admission) that means that not even the majority are fascists. And then you have to exclude all those who voted for trump because they were duped by his campaign who aren’t fascist and are just more republican and 4ight leaning than left.
I feel the same way about israel and palestine. We are quick to speak to the separation of hamas and palestine as a whole, but when it comes to israel, the same voices are shouting its the whole country and not just a genocidal organisation and their followers.
I think its an important distinction.
If our country finishes it’s transition to fascism and I did nothing to stop that, I’ll have to own that. Inaction will lump me in with the fascists. Neutrality makes me a guilty party; for evil to triumph, all good men must do is nothing. History isn’t kind to collaborators regardless of their reasons.
I hope you are doing your bit to stop it. You are clearly passionate about it. I just worry that too many people feel hopeless because it looks worse than it really is, which is the very tool the fascists need to win. Much like you say, apathy and inaction is what will destroy the world.
I am sorry to see so many downvoting me during this exchange. I don’t feel like i oppose your views, i just have a different perspective. I think its healthy to allow others views to help to shape your own. Even if all it does it reaffirms your already held beliefs. If i was to think of an example of this, i would compare it to the characters in always sunny in philadelphia. They are not the heroes of the story, they are assholes, they are a charicature example of what not to be. They reaffirm my position against that type of person and those types of views.
I hope you are safe over there. Its a scary place to live right now, or at least it seems it from the outside looking in.
Appalling.
P. S. When I tried to open your link, it failed and sent me to the MSN front page, i removed some variables/identifiers at the end of URL and that seems to work:
www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/…/ar-AA1NSQWj
What makes you think that relabelling Palestinians as ‘innocent people’ to prevent Netanyahu and his fascists from their Doublethink redirection of genocide to only be relevant to Jews but not Palestinians would work? They would immediately reframe ‘innocent people’ as Hamas-embedded terrorist supporters - they already do it. The better action is to call out the truth (Israel is committing genocide) and say it loudly as much as possible, one of many benefits is that businesses and artists and people don’t actually want to be associated with a genocide and we’re seeing that impact daily.
When people say “Israel is committing genocide” they mean the government of Israel, it is implied. It is silly to extrapolate it to blame for every man woman and child in Israel. Just as it would be silly to pin it down to only Netanyahu when he is the PM of far-right government with thousands of people directly supporting and enabling his actions, and is Israel’s longest serving prime minister - voted in multiple times by clear majority in elections, so while only he and his government are accountable to their actions, a large swathe of Israel is responsible for him being there.
Just as when people say “the USA has just bombed Iran unprovoked” they clearly mean the current government of the USA has taken this action - not just Trump, and also not some kid playing basketball in Philadelphia.
Thats a fine argument, and i agree with you. But I’m not talking about people who understand the implication behind naming the country and not the individuals. I am specifically saying that there are swathes of people who hear the word israel and its not a government, its not a country, its a terrorist, its a more abstract scary monster thing and for those people, it shifts blame from the government, to the country as a whole. Just like what happened with antifa. Antifa doesnt mean anti fascist to idiots. It means terrorist.
Corporations can’t stand it a logarithmic graph. They need freaking geometric progressions, and then they do stuff that gets them an anti-logarithmic graph.
I bailed on CR when they fired their US based IT people and outsourced to the cheapest Eastern Euro country. It wasn’t even a purely moral decision. The website was janky in the first place and I knew it wasn’t going to get batter at that point.
So non-Americans can’t do a good job, amirite?
especially if they arnt familiar with the tech.
I didn’t get that vibe from the parent comment. the reaction was to the motivations of the rich fatcats who aren’t happy with the obscene wealth they already have. Not American Exceptionalism.
Animelab died for this
I wouldn’t even pirate their content! Let’s just hope enough people leave so they can shut down already!!! :-(
Its not their content (unless they make originals I dont know) they are just distributing Japanese content
I think they’ve funded a couple of series, although not nearly as many as Netflix has.
The problem here is that all these major anime providers are owned by Sony, so you’re kinda fucked if you want to boycott them.
You’re not fucked if you have The Pirate Bay. :-)
Nyaa.si
Have you been living under a rock?
I live under a rock apparently!
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Anime’s on tpb now? Fuck me i just use #transformers
Did you read the article - or even the title? This story is about people turning to piracy, not turning to another official source.
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When property is valued over people, piracy is protest. Pirating undermines a system that guards profit while neglecting humanity. Every download is a refusal to accept laws that protect wealth over well-being.
Enshittification, everyone. It comes to everything.
As far as I know we don’t even have fansubs anymore, any group nowadays is just a rip of whatever streaming has the anime, current anime if it’s not picked up by any streaming will get no subs, the streaming giants were successful and embracing it and enshitifying.
Some groups are still alive:
fansubbers.miraheze.org/…/List_of_fansub_groups
I don’t like anime, so this has no bearing on my life. Hot take, I know.
More like useless comment in such a thread.
Why are you commenting on a post you think has nothing to do with you, then?
But let me say this; corporations becoming increasingly emboldened to replace people with AI, disregard accessibility concerns, and make ethically bankrupt purchasing decisions without any consequence is something that perhaps should concern you, regardless of whether the company’s output is of relevance to your interests or not.
Hot take, I know.
And the Spotify ceo just stepped down so he could focus on weapons systems for Israel. The people running all of our media services are Nazis.
Fascism is the natural end stage of capitalism. Plenty of businesses that have no core connection and competency with the military are embedding themselves into the military. For now, most of the US top brass loathe the Trump administration, but eventually they will be replaced by loyalists. We might get a real life Enclave if something isn’t done to rid the fascists.
Lol. Crunchy roll was always crap. Watching anime in the raw is torture.
So we’re banning everything from Israel now?
Be serious.
I’m so super mega serious. Seriously. I’ll try it more basic, but deadly serious:
"What going on?
Me not understand.
Why hate thing? Is cause ai, or cause Israeli, both? Something else?
Why do I care who is hitting the keyboard characters to sub a story i already know/love?
AI gets subs wrong, and thinking that doesn’t matter is both ableist and just a terrible lazy product, but that’s not the pressing matter.
It’s Israel. Because giving money to another party is not a value neutral action. Using a site that pays money to Israel—and you either know what that means or are purposefully avoiding the subject—means you are supporting Israel. Your consumption does not occur in a vacuum.
Israel, the country committing a genocide? The country actively and openly exterminating an entire ethnic group? And the product isn’t even good anyway?
Yea, it’s actually so easy to tell them to fuck off. If you can’t figure that out your moral compass is broken and you should send it in for a warantee repair.
I don’t want to support any company that is either directly or indirectly funding genocide and fascism. It’s not complicated.
If you found out that Netflix powered their servers using an orphan grinding machine, would you still subscribe to them?
So you don’t buy anything that comes from USA, Italy, China, Russia…, or that does business with a company based here? That’s pretty much all of them
Yes
yes
That is the purpose of a boycott yes. Here are some other examples
Abolitionist boycotts of Southern goods over slavery - www.thenation.com/…/boycott-sugar-slavery-bds/
Boycotts of German goods over Nazi policies- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1933_anti-Nazi_boycott
Boycotts of South Africa over Apartheid - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Apartheid_Movement
Ongoing boycott of US goods by Canada over a threatening stance taken by US government- en.wikipedia.org/…/2025_Canadian_boycott_of_the_U…
Given how things have been going, it seems an appropriate course of action.
Yes.
Ahh good ol’ Aegisub. I have great memories of subtitling anime in my late teens before I got a girlfriend and the fansub scene died when Crunchyroll took over.
I was also one of the people helping test Aegisub on Linux (2009-ish), I wasn’t a programmer at the time but I remember a dude called ‘verm’ in the IRC channel who did a bunch of work to make Aegisub stable on Linux. He taught me the difference between little endian and big endian, I guess he was bored that day
I cannot seem to find any verification that any of this is happening. An OPs link is dead.
Found this. Apparently they took the post down but here is the archive. web.archive.org/…/crunchyroll-faces-cancelation-w…
And there goes the last streaming service I still paid to access. It was convenient exactly because of the subtitles…
Everything now must flow through my -arr stack.
The zionism thing was the icing on the shit cake. Fuck that genocidal ethnostate, and fuck all genocide enablers.