ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Jun 19:11
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This is the first I have heard they were doing this. Makes spacex accomplishments less impressive. Fuck elon
turkalino@lemmy.yachts
on 18 Jun 19:17
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I imagine they poached a lot of Spacex engineers by simply telling them “we won’t make you work ungodly hours, nor will we subject you to a narcissistic manchild with no engineering education dropping in on your meetings and trying to tell you how to do your job”
As much as it’s true, not all company are doing this.
There are plenty of good East Asian company with good work life balance, especially newer company that already recognize the issue.
frezik@midwest.social
on 18 Jun 19:21
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Eh, it’s just a start of development. It only goes 300 meters. Blue Origin goes higher, but even they aren’t in orbit.
Japan also has some odd limitations on their rockets as part of their self defense only constitution. They don’t build a rocket that could potentially be used to strike mainland Asia.
The issue is not going up, it’s going over. If we only cared about the private sector getting people into space, that happened on a fully reusable vehicle twenty years ago.
The problem is getting things to stay in space. Not trying to Elon-stan here, but getting a rocket into orbit is many fold more difficult than just getting into space.
The Estes Corporation makes rockets that will do 600 meters.
It’s great that Honda is doing this. We really need other companies in this area, because SpaceX is dominating it. Even if Elon weren’t a walking disaster, we don’t want one company so badly outclassing everyone else.
dariusj18@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 19:48
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Also, if you look at the pictures, it’s not a very big rocket.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org
on 18 Jun 23:26
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Hey, hey, it’s average.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Jun 23:51
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It’s not a big American rocket.
fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net
on 18 Jun 19:59
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I know you’re likely referring to New Shepard but Blue Origin did make it to orbit with New Glenn
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 23:38
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And their 1st stage is designed to be reusable, so we might have another reusable provide in the near future.
It might take a handful of launches to get there, but they are on that path.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 19:26
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Hell yes. Any competition to musk is very much needed.
Go Honda.
pastermil@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Jun 21:15
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To be fair, they must’ve learned from the recent spacex accomplishments.
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jun 00:54
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probably
no one in the private sector was gonna take that kind of risk for a while and then SpaceX took the gamble, won and now tons of players see vertical landing of rockets works so their all looking into it.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 23:28
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Up and down isn’t a hard problem in the grand scheme of things. It’s expensive and doesn’t offer much benefit which is why people generally haven’t bothered.
Going up and over at orbital velocities and coming back is the hard part, and none of these new spaces companies have done that successfully yet, and SpaceX has now done it with 2 vehicles and reused them both.
New Glenn from Blue Orgin might be the first after SpaceX but it blew up coming back on their first attempt, but it’s been designed to be orbital and reusable
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jun 00:52
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well Honda did this a decade later so there still is some achievement spacex has done 🤷
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 02:11
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Um, no it doesn’t… At all…
This is a first step landing test, not even suborbital, it flew to a height of 300 meters. This is the point that SpaceX was at in 2011 with their grasshopper rocket.
SpaceX is regularly landing orbital hardware and working on a fully reusable rocket with a greater lifting capacity than anything else ever. It’s not really the same…
But fuck Elon, no argument there.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 19 Jun 10:08
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How does it make spaceX’s accomplishments less impressive? SpaceX pioneered it. Space X did it first, with a significantly bigger rocket and at a significantly higher altitude. Honda no doubt achieved this by looking at what spacex did and how they did it and copying it.
This actually makes spaceX’s accomplishments look even more impressive.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 19:19
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Since when is Honda a rocket company? This is literally the first im hearing about this. They kept this quiet for a while, and im not sure why.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Jun 19:22
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Well they have been making crotch rockets for a long time.
minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 19:31
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It’s new. Honda Space Development Division.
Honda R&D to Conduct Testing with Sierra Space and Tec-Masters on the International Space Station | Honda Global Corporate Website share.google/3CwIsYUh8eWsohht4
A lot of the global conglomerate Asian based companies do R&D across many fields, rather than just the product they’re most know for. Toshiba makes nuclear reactors! Samsung has phones and sewing machines and microchips… and nuclear reactors research.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 21:07
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Good for them, Asia is getting their rocket programs in order while the U.S. tries their best to destroy ours. Man i wish I could move.
Windex007@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 20:24
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It seems crazy that a company that’s only really known for cars, motorbikes, tuning forks, heat pumps, brake pads, pens, tractors, fertilizer, display panels, outboard motors, pneumatic systems, oil tankers, furniture, locomotives, bricks, solar panels, ATVs, generators, hot air balloons, dinghies, hydrogen fuel cells, submarines, crop dusters, jet engines, cultivators, hedge trimmers, lawnmowers, precision optics and robots would suddenly pivot to rockets.
Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 21:46
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Isn’t that Yamaha? Or is Honda the same?
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca
on 18 Jun 22:05
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lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Jun 00:57
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It says Honda right on the side of the engine.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
on 19 Jun 04:03
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Yamaha is definitely in tune with the music. I never remember which is which, but their logo is tuning forks and depending on the product the tuning forks can extend past the circle. I think their motorcycles have it extending past.
I’m a huge fan of Yamaha guitars. Great workmanship at a very affordable price, and if you buy used you can get them super cheap. My best guitar, an FG730S, which plays and sounds as good as any expensive gourmet brands, was only $102 at auction. I even bought another one as a backup. Used Yamaha guitars are the best deal only the market.
roofuskit@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 22:16
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ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 04:24
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The impressive part is that they are also known for being reliable, there are the occasional issues, but overall very trustworthy products.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 04:36
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To be fair to Honda, they are doing what is expected of any companies in a capitalist system, actually innovate and diversify in order to remain competitive. Most other companies would rather stick to their traditional products and services, even if those products and services are written on the wall that they are becoming obsolete.
It’s actually interesting how similar rockets and jet engines are. You could think of a rocket as a jet (or sometimes two jet engines) where the afterburner is always on and the air intake is replaced by an O2 tank…
Well, different. You’d have highly compressed hydrogen in a cylindrical pressure vessel.
The Hindenburg just burned, actually it was mostly its highly flammable paint that caught fire. When a pressure vessel is ruptured, it explodes in a big way, or it quickly removes itself from the vehicle like a mini rocket.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
on 19 Jun 00:42
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I mean so are the shells tank fire. If you are hit hard enough to hit the fuel cell in a tank…you have other problems.
In different ways. For example, it’s very rare for a car to explode in a collision, other than in movies.
One of the reasons that make hydrogen difficult to work with in this sense is that hydrogen (H₂) molecules are so small that they can permeate most materials, such as steel. Then it can get somewhat easily to wherever there is a spark, and chaos ensues. Annoyingly you don’t even need 100% Hydrogen for that to happen, as it can ignite with a concentration of just 4%.
After we stopped using Hydrogen mostly as a consequence of Hindenburg’s accident, it’s taken years to perfect hydrogen fuel cells to a safety standard that can be used in cars. As far as I know, its use has been limited to rockets/space propulsion otherwise (where you can just throw millions at the problem to make it safer).
(H₂) molecules are so small that they can permeate most materials, such as steel
Okay, I knew from texts books that H2 is small but I never thought of the real-life consequences of it being so small. Then theoretically, Helium should also be “leaky”, right?
MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 07:17
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Yep, helium is even worse for leaking! It’s actually the smallest noble gas and can escape through tiny pores that even hydrogen can’t fit through. Thats why helium balloons deflate faster than air balloons - the atoms literally seep through the balloon material.
How does Helium fit through places that Hydrogen can’t even though its bigger? Is it because Hydrogen would react with things along the way while Helium won’t?
For the production of the tank itself or the likelihood of environmental impact?
Here is an article about the tank, it appears to still be in the proof of concept stage. As for my conjecture that it would likely have a high carbon impact during production that was based mostly on similar studies~2~ done on the production of cars.
At the end of the day, making EV cars isn’t either unfortunately…but in the grand scheme of things. Both hydrogen and EV cars are more environmentally friendly than gas powered cars.
The all new Honda space Odyssey! It has a great V6 rocket engine with a 6000 million mile timing belt. After that you can buy one at amazon but it lasts 4 miles or 6 minutes.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
on 19 Jun 02:31
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Because the last stage of existence on this planet. Will be febel plans to try and colonize other planets. Because our planet will start to poison us as a defensive mechanism. All of these Corporations need a plan to get off planet.
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 05:54
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It’s the only planet we can terraform (As in repairing some of the damage we’ve done), we are nowhere near able to terraform Mars, not even theoretically and disregarding cost.
Maybe in a century we can. But only maybe.
Imo it’s a good thing tho. Spreading our civilization across multiple planets is the only way to guarantee long long term success. Obviously we should also fix the climate change issue (and many others). But still, being spread across the solar system would give our species redundancy. An extinction event on earth like a large meteor strike would no longer be the end.
The planet isn’t doing anything, we are poisoning ourselves. Or as lemmy puts it “big evil corporations (which we support everyday because it’s cheaper than buying local/sustainable) are poisoning us”.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Jun 04:17
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I wanna buy one and see what it can do with an old 4 cylinder VTEC out of a Civic Si.
6.3 m in length, 85 cm in diameter,
The test was completed successfully, the first time Honda landed a rocket after reaching an altitude of nearly 300 meters.
But still they were successful on their first try, so we will have to see where they take it from here. 🚀
It’s proof of tech. It’d be stupid and wasteful to do all the tests on a full size rocket.
moseschrute@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 11:08
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There’s a YouTube channel called BPS Space where this guy spent 7 years learning how to land a model rocket space x style. He talked about how much you can learn about real rocket science even from a small model.
Whatever they tested it’s probably proof of that, but such a small rocket and only 300 meters means that a lot of things were not really proven, because scale is a HUGE issue.
Just ask Elon Musk / SpaceX, the Falcon rocket is fine, but Starship is horrible. And the difference is scale.
RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe
on 19 Jun 08:49
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Anything that erodes SpaceX’s monopoly is good for me
Unfortunately, the next competitor will be Amazon…
And then we’ll see what happens next, getting a whole constellation up is no small feat, I can’t see a third company getting a system working before 2050.
I know Blue Horizon or whatever it’s called has had minor success with rockets. What’s stopping Honda from out-competing them? Could it be a funding problem? (I know Blue Horizon has a lot of Amazon funding)
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 19 Jun 10:14
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If it had vtech and a fart cannon it would have hit 600m.
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This is the first I have heard they were doing this. Makes spacex accomplishments less impressive. Fuck elon
I imagine they poached a lot of Spacex engineers by simply telling them “we won’t make you work ungodly hours, nor will we subject you to a narcissistic manchild with no engineering education dropping in on your meetings and trying to tell you how to do your job”
You do realize it’s Japan right? China, Japan, Korea all have work life balance issues.i wouldn’t want to work 996 or 007 lol
It’s called “being hardcore”
They had the same at SpaceX
Not saying they don’t. Just saying the “ungodly hours” statement may not apply
We would like to contact you for job offer in the same role as your current.
We cant pay you as much per hour but we can give you more hours to match it.
“Promise me i wont ever have to deal with Musk and i am in”
As much as it’s true, not all company are doing this. There are plenty of good East Asian company with good work life balance, especially newer company that already recognize the issue.
Tbf doesn’t he have a computer science degree? Which is a type of engineering degree?
Computer science is more of a math degree than anything else
In Japan?
“… it’ll be the same, but it’s be a huge honor to work on this project in our company.”
And we reward you for this huge honour with the worst working conditions you can imagine. You’ll live at your desk.
I bet they poached 0-3 engineers.
You left out the “but you have to learn Japanese and move to Japan” part of the job pitch. That makes it a harder sell for most people.
Well, Honda is actually a competent company.
Eh, it’s just a start of development. It only goes 300 meters. Blue Origin goes higher, but even they aren’t in orbit.
Japan also has some odd limitations on their rockets as part of their self defense only constitution. They don’t build a rocket that could potentially be used to strike mainland Asia.
youtu.be/UZaIs6oSlOI
Something something the first 300 meters are the hardest…
The issue is not going up, it’s going over. If we only cared about the private sector getting people into space, that happened on a fully reusable vehicle twenty years ago.
The problem is getting things to stay in space. Not trying to Elon-stan here, but getting a rocket into orbit is many fold more difficult than just getting into space.
The Estes Corporation makes rockets that will do 600 meters.
It’s great that Honda is doing this. We really need other companies in this area, because SpaceX is dominating it. Even if Elon weren’t a walking disaster, we don’t want one company so badly outclassing everyone else.
Also, if you look at the pictures, it’s not a very big rocket.
Like kei cars … Kei rockets!!!
Hey, hey, it’s average.
It’s not a big American rocket.
I know you’re likely referring to New Shepard but Blue Origin did make it to orbit with New Glenn
And their 1st stage is designed to be reusable, so we might have another reusable provide in the near future.
It might take a handful of launches to get there, but they are on that path.
Hell yes. Any competition to musk is very much needed.
Go Honda.
To be fair, they must’ve learned from the recent spacex accomplishments.
probably
no one in the private sector was gonna take that kind of risk for a while and then SpaceX took the gamble, won and now tons of players see vertical landing of rockets works so their all looking into it.
Up and down isn’t a hard problem in the grand scheme of things. It’s expensive and doesn’t offer much benefit which is why people generally haven’t bothered.
Going up and over at orbital velocities and coming back is the hard part, and none of these new spaces companies have done that successfully yet, and SpaceX has now done it with 2 vehicles and reused them both.
New Glenn from Blue Orgin might be the first after SpaceX but it blew up coming back on their first attempt, but it’s been designed to be orbital and reusable
well Honda did this a decade later so there still is some achievement spacex has done 🤷
Um, no it doesn’t… At all…
This is a first step landing test, not even suborbital, it flew to a height of 300 meters. This is the point that SpaceX was at in 2011 with their grasshopper rocket.
SpaceX is regularly landing orbital hardware and working on a fully reusable rocket with a greater lifting capacity than anything else ever. It’s not really the same…
But fuck Elon, no argument there.
How does it make spaceX’s accomplishments less impressive? SpaceX pioneered it. Space X did it first, with a significantly bigger rocket and at a significantly higher altitude. Honda no doubt achieved this by looking at what spacex did and how they did it and copying it.
This actually makes spaceX’s accomplishments look even more impressive.
Since when is Honda a rocket company? This is literally the first im hearing about this. They kept this quiet for a while, and im not sure why.
Well they have been making crotch rockets for a long time.
It’s new. Honda Space Development Division.
Honda R&D to Conduct Testing with Sierra Space and Tec-Masters on the International Space Station | Honda Global Corporate Website share.google/3CwIsYUh8eWsohht4
A lot of the global conglomerate Asian based companies do R&D across many fields, rather than just the product they’re most know for. Toshiba makes nuclear reactors! Samsung has phones and sewing machines and microchips… and nuclear reactors research.
Good for them, Asia is getting their rocket programs in order while the U.S. tries their best to destroy ours. Man i wish I could move.
Guess we doin rockets now
We got Honda launching rockets before GTA 6
I thought Rockstar was going to launch GTA 6
“Listen here you little shit…”
I wonder how it feels when VTEC kicks in on a literal rocket
It seems crazy that a company that’s only really known for cars, motorbikes, tuning forks, heat pumps, brake pads, pens, tractors, fertilizer, display panels, outboard motors, pneumatic systems, oil tankers, furniture, locomotives, bricks, solar panels, ATVs, generators, hot air balloons, dinghies, hydrogen fuel cells, submarines, crop dusters, jet engines, cultivators, hedge trimmers, lawnmowers, precision optics and robots would suddenly pivot to rockets.
Isn’t that Yamaha? Or is Honda the same?
Mitsubishi too
.
None of these answers are wrong.
Pretty sure we had CRTs in highschool, back when I was a teen many years ago that were Kia brand… IIRC.
No, that’s Nintendo
No, they’re the playing card company.
It says Honda right on the side of the engine.
Yamaha is definitely in tune with the music. I never remember which is which, but their logo is tuning forks and depending on the product the tuning forks can extend past the circle. I think their motorcycles have it extending past.
I’m a huge fan of Yamaha guitars. Great workmanship at a very affordable price, and if you buy used you can get them super cheap. My best guitar, an FG730S, which plays and sounds as good as any expensive gourmet brands, was only $102 at auction. I even bought another one as a backup. Used Yamaha guitars are the best deal only the market.
It’s almost like they’re an engineering company.
Crazy, right?
Incredible. What a great comment.
Don’t forget, one the sleekest airplanes to ever exist.
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Oh damn.
N420HA. Not sure if that’s the model or the plane’s license plate but either way hell yeah
Yeah, tail numbers are a lot like license plates.
The impressive part is that they are also known for being reliable, there are the occasional issues, but overall very trustworthy products.
To be fair to Honda, they are doing what is expected of any companies in a capitalist system, actually innovate and diversify in order to remain competitive. Most other companies would rather stick to their traditional products and services, even if those products and services are written on the wall that they are becoming obsolete.
It’s actually interesting how similar rockets and jet engines are. You could think of a rocket as a jet (or sometimes two jet engines) where the afterburner is always on and the air intake is replaced by an O2 tank…
“But look what I can do, I’m Elon musk” …. Throws out a nazi salute.
Flying Honda Accord confirmed.
And Hyundai is making hydrogen powered tanks, what a world. I wonder if hydrogen fuels poses any unique risks as compared to petrol.
It’s highly explosive.
Something something hindenberg…
Well, different. You’d have highly compressed hydrogen in a cylindrical pressure vessel.
The Hindenburg just burned, actually it was mostly its highly flammable paint that caught fire. When a pressure vessel is ruptured, it explodes in a big way, or it quickly removes itself from the vehicle like a mini rocket.
I mean so are the shells tank fire. If you are hit hard enough to hit the fuel cell in a tank…you have other problems.
This is a feature, not a bug.
Is petrol not?
In different ways. For example, it’s very rare for a car to explode in a collision, other than in movies.
One of the reasons that make hydrogen difficult to work with in this sense is that hydrogen (H₂) molecules are so small that they can permeate most materials, such as steel. Then it can get somewhat easily to wherever there is a spark, and chaos ensues. Annoyingly you don’t even need 100% Hydrogen for that to happen, as it can ignite with a concentration of just 4%.
After we stopped using Hydrogen mostly as a consequence of Hindenburg’s accident, it’s taken years to perfect hydrogen fuel cells to a safety standard that can be used in cars. As far as I know, its use has been limited to rockets/space propulsion otherwise (where you can just throw millions at the problem to make it safer).
Okay, I knew from texts books that H2 is small but I never thought of the real-life consequences of it being so small. Then theoretically, Helium should also be “leaky”, right?
Yep, helium is even worse for leaking! It’s actually the smallest noble gas and can escape through tiny pores that even hydrogen can’t fit through. Thats why helium balloons deflate faster than air balloons - the atoms literally seep through the balloon material.
How does Helium fit through places that Hydrogen can’t even though its bigger? Is it because Hydrogen would react with things along the way while Helium won’t?
I’m also curious, I thought hydrogen was the worst in this regard.
I like your theory on hydrogen reacting as it moves through materials.
That’s … why i’m here
Explosion wise or climate wise?
I guess both? I know climate wise the manufacture of those things cannot be climate friendly.
any sources?
For the production of the tank itself or the likelihood of environmental impact?
Here is an article about the tank, it appears to still be in the proof of concept stage. As for my conjecture that it would likely have a high carbon impact during production that was based mostly on similar studies ~2~ done on the production of cars.
i guess both?
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At the end of the day, making EV cars isn’t either unfortunately…but in the grand scheme of things. Both hydrogen and EV cars are more environmentally friendly than gas powered cars.
Manufacturing of any kind always causes an environmental impact. This is the way of things.
The one thing we can’t get that would mitigate the environmental costs of making stuff, is if stuff was built to last…
An alternative to starlink would be great.
An alternative to.space junk clogging up the sky would indeed be nice.
It sounds like he’s asking for more space junk.
An alternative to anything related to Elon would be great.
Yeah, they could have a product ready by 2045! (If they hurry and make it a priority)
I hope they crush SpaceX one day.
By landing on them.
How many went kaboom before this?
Of all the manufacturing companies, I would expect nothing less from Honda.
The all new Honda space Odyssey! It has a great V6 rocket engine with a 6000 million mile timing belt. After that you can buy one at amazon but it lasts 4 miles or 6 minutes.
Honda built a rocket
Me: of course they did.
They launched the rocket
Me: naturally.
They landed the rocket.
Me: on the first try?
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What the F is every corporation’s boner with rockets? 🚀
Because the last stage of existence on this planet. Will be febel plans to try and colonize other planets. Because our planet will start to poison us as a defensive mechanism. All of these Corporations need a plan to get off planet.
Feeble? But I think you meant futile? Idk.
It would take a lot to make Mars more habitable than Earth. This isn’t about colonisation this is simply that it’s cool to build rockets.
Yeah, it’s easier to terraform … Planet Earth!
It’s the only planet we can terraform (As in repairing some of the damage we’ve done), we are nowhere near able to terraform Mars, not even theoretically and disregarding cost.
Maybe in a century we can. But only maybe.
Yes, let spend money to fuck up other planets as well instead of saving this one. /s
That’s exactly what they will say.
Imo it’s a good thing tho. Spreading our civilization across multiple planets is the only way to guarantee long long term success. Obviously we should also fix the climate change issue (and many others). But still, being spread across the solar system would give our species redundancy. An extinction event on earth like a large meteor strike would no longer be the end.
The planet isn’t doing anything, we are poisoning ourselves. Or as lemmy puts it “big evil corporations (which we support everyday because it’s cheaper than buying local/sustainable) are poisoning us”.
I wanna buy one and see what it can do with an old 4 cylinder VTEC out of a Civic Si.
Idk, looks more like Hitachi
Hitachi - Get perpendicular
Not just for hard drives anymore.
Genuinely curious: how many explosions before the successful test?
Apparently they got it right on the first try.
This wasn’t much more than a toy rocket:
But still they were successful on their first try, so we will have to see where they take it from here. 🚀
It’s proof of tech. It’d be stupid and wasteful to do all the tests on a full size rocket.
There’s a YouTube channel called BPS Space where this guy spent 7 years learning how to land a model rocket space x style. He talked about how much you can learn about real rocket science even from a small model.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=SH3lR2GLgT0
Whatever they tested it’s probably proof of that, but such a small rocket and only 300 meters means that a lot of things were not really proven, because scale is a HUGE issue.
Just ask Elon Musk / SpaceX, the Falcon rocket is fine, but Starship is horrible. And the difference is scale.
Anything that erodes SpaceX’s monopoly is good for me
Unfortunately, the next competitor will be Amazon…
And then we’ll see what happens next, getting a whole constellation up is no small feat, I can’t see a third company getting a system working before 2050.
I know Blue Horizon or whatever it’s called has had minor success with rockets. What’s stopping Honda from out-competing them? Could it be a funding problem? (I know Blue Horizon has a lot of Amazon funding)
If it had vtech and a fart cannon it would have hit 600m.